wdoa
join:2001-10-16
Spencer, MA | ..just another day....
in the United Corporations of America. Now shutup and buy something, that is your sole reason for existence in this country. |
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PhoenixDown
-- Wants FIOS
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join:2003-06-08
Fresh Meadows, NY
clubs:   | We've created our own personal little monster. Originally the corporation served us but now it has enslaved us. |
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MxxCon
join:1999-11-19
Brooklyn, NY
clubs: | and Don't forget
DMCA was used to sue printer cartridge re-fill companies |
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY | Well this has sure put me in a good mood for Monday. What a bunch of total, and complete, horse sh*t |
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33591094
join:2002-11-19
Canada
| wow...
The 24-page bill is a far-reaching medley of different proposals cobbled together. One would, for instance, create a new federal crime of just trying to commit copyright infringement. Such willful attempts at piracy, even if they fail, could be punished by up to 10 years in prison. Insanity...  |
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Idjk
@144.226.x.x
| DMCA gets Broader
Here's the deal- we as taxpayers ONLY pay Congress their salary and staff plus "fact finding tours" while they make much, much more from the people and groups they really represent. And yet I vote at every election, it's like walking around with a lamp looking for an honest man not knowing you are blind. |
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jpark
join:2005-02-05
Jackson, TN | Our tax dollars at work ...
The US congress will pass whatever the RIAA and MPAA want -- for our protection, of course. |
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Jason Levine
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join:2001-07-13
USA
| Anticircumvention Tools and Terrorism
Smith's measure would expand those civil and criminal restrictions. Instead of merely targeting distribution, the new language says nobody may "make, import, export, obtain control of, or possess" such anticircumvention tools if they may be redistributed to someone else.
So basically, magic markers will now be illegal to possess because you might hand one to someone who uses it to bypass the copyright protection on a CD. Oops. Guess that link will be illegal also. And the computer you're reading this on? Illegal since you might possibly use it as an anticircumvention tool.
But my biggest laugh comes here:
During a speech in November, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales endorsed the idea and said at the time that he would send Congress draft legislation. Such changes are necessary because new technology is "encouraging large-scale criminal enterprises to get involved in intellectual-property theft," Gonzales said, adding that proceeds from the illicit businesses are used, "quite frankly, to fund terrorism activities." Yes. We all know that al Queda's next nefarious plan involves flooding the P2P networks with the latest Jessica Simpson song. The fiends! 
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Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
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join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ
| reply to wdoa
Re: ..just another day....
and we will continue to exercise fair use because it is Gurenteed to us via US Copyright law. and since that law is older then the DMCA fair use is grandfathered in and cant be removed unless amended.
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amungus
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join:2004-11-26
America
clubs:
| fair what?
So I can understand fair use, it makes sense. I can also understand protecting the rights of the creators, writers, programmers, etc, but this is too much.
What's next, the "instrument of obedience" like that old Star Trek? You even think about it, and bam, instead of your head exploding, you get prison, which then brings cheap labor, which makes more corporate profit, while enslaving everyone.
This seems like it will only serve to make more problems than there were before. |
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older dog
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join:2005-06-09
Norwich, NY | Even if this gets shouted down, they will bring it back when no one is looking.
On election day remember which Justice department came up with this. Vote please. |
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pb5k
more cowbell
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join:2005-11-16
Glendale, AZ | reply to wdoa
Re: ..just another day....
I pledge allegiance... 
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pb5k
more cowbell
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join:2005-11-16
Glendale, AZ
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| reply to Jason Levine
Re: Anticircumvention Tools and Terrorism
Don't forget sticky notes. They can also be used to circumvent certain cd copy protections so they are illegal as well. 
Don't deny it - if you are in posession of sticky notes or markers, you are a THIEF and should expect to be punished accordingly. After all, posession is 9/10s of the law! |
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
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join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast
| reply to older dog
Re: fair what?
said by older dog  :Even if this gets shouted down, they will bring it back when no one is looking. On election day remember which Justice department came up with this. Vote please. Like that will change anything! They'll just write the checks to the new puppets... BFD!
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G_Poobah
join:2004-01-17
Schenectady, NY
| The law of diminishg returns
If you stand back and look at this bill, and ask yourself WHY such a bill could even be proposed, the reason becomes clear. The existing laws are not 'saving' the megacorps, the existing laws are apparently NOT providing the higher profits, etc. Since the current laws aren't working, their logical approach is to make a newer, even tougher law.
But it will fail, even worse than the first one, and will lead to a cascade failure of the legal system of the US. As our favorite paid corporate shill likes to say, "80% of all computer users are thieves". That means that 80% of the population does not respect the copyright laws, as it should be, so why should that same 80% respect traffic laws? embezzlement laws? or any law for that matter? Just like the prohibition, the law had the effect of making everyone a criminal, and once you think of yourself as a criminal, then why should you care about ANY law?
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qdemn7
Smurf in My Loop
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join:2003-09-16
Fort Worth, TX
| reply to older dog
Re: fair what?
said by older dog :Even if this gets shouted down, they will bring it back when no one is looking. On election day remember which Justice department came up with this. Vote please. Please! The way the Democrats have their noses shoved so far up Hollywood's collective ass, you think THEY would make any difference? There's a reason Spielberg and the rest have special seats at every Democratic Convention.
Don't forget Clinton signed the DMCA into law with a Republican Congress. They're ALL GUILTY AS HELL!! 
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jimbo2150
join:2004-05-10
Youngstown, OH
| reply to Kearnstd
Re: ..just another day....
I'm pretty sure that 'fair use' laws applied to non-digital media though. UNFORTUNATELY, the current corporate structure and all other entities to which it bribes (aka our adminstration) will probably see it as such and take no notice to the consumer.
It seems like were going back in time, when major companies joined to become super-corporations. They were broken up long ago, will we see this again? Probably not untill 2010 at least (taking into acount the time between now and getting a new, better adminstration, replacing all these greedy SoBs in FCC and other areas, and the time the courts take).
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older dog
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join:2005-06-09
Norwich, NY
| reply to dadkins
Re: fair what?
Its all we got.
"Please! The way the Democrats have their noses shoved so far up Hollywood's collective ass, you think THEY would make any difference? There's a reason Spielberg and the rest have special seats at every Democratic Convention."
I really see very little difference between Bush and Clinton.
They just lie to different groups of people. |
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
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| reply to amungus
Money, Money, Money
Well if this goes through it will make anyone who owns a computer, or they think owns a computer a crook. This is starting to sound more and more like the efforts of the various anti-gun factions, who for years, have be trying to criminalize the ownership of firearms. Before you start blaming just Republicans on this one, let me point out this all started with the person who invented the internet Al Gore. The point of this is if you think the you will get any better treatment from the Democraps on this one I have a bootleg soon to be illegal photo of the Brooklyn Bridge to sell you. Folks we are getting screwed, again.
This thing with our bought off representatives and the money they are getting paid makes me think of the movie Clockwork Orange remember the Korova Milkbar, I am thinking of the drink dispensers which where statues of naked women, our politician are drinking from the tits of lobby money. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
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Re: ..just another day....
Shouldn't you be pledging allegiance to this flag instead?
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