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Comments on news posted 2006-04-24 17:18:14: Late last week, the net-neutrality debate took on a more partisan tone, as liberal groups such as Moveon joined the fight. ..

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Partisan battle....


a Democratic Politician

A Republican Politician
Politicians are drawn to any issue they think will get them in the news, lobby money, and votes like a fly is drawn to a steaming mound of cow crap. Believe me in Wyoming we know all about cow crap.

Sarge_0321

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WTF!!

With all this B.S. coming down from the government and corporations, I'm about ready to go back to dial up.

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TKJunkMail
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 Not Repub vs Dem; more like Socialist vs Free Market

A big time DEM(McCurry) is a co-chairman of the "Hands off the Internet" group:

»www.handsofftheinternet.com/hoti···en.shtml
McCurry is a veteran communications strategist and spokesperson with nearly three decades of experience in Washington D.C. McCurry served in the White House as press secretary to President Bill Clinton (1995-1998). He also served as spokesman for the Department of State (1993-1995) and director of communications for the Democratic National Committee (1988-1990). McCurry has also held leadership roles in several national campaigns -- senior advisor for Senator John Kerry (2004),
And other Dems are against the more drastic proposed Net Neutrality laws.

The fact that moveon.org is for government control of the internet is hardly surprising. They are for government control of everything.
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"Not Repub vs Dem; more like Socialist vs Free Market"

What a bunch of nonsense. Supporting net neutrality has nothing to do with socialism, and only a rabidly fanatical free marketer like you would even try to paint such a mainstream opinion as 'socialism'.
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Socialism is used by free-market fanatics like yourself to conjure images in the heads of the less informed of Che Guevara and Fidel wielding AK-47s. I don't think it's an accurate tag for what net-neutrality advocates are fighting for....


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Not exactly partisan

Well, it is and it isn't partisan. It isn't partisan in the sense that conservatives would take one view and liberals the other. It's divided more along the lines of which politicians and organizations get more bribes...er...kickbacks...I mean...campaign contributions from the big telcos. In this case, it happens to be Republicans.

Here's the problem with network neutrality, copyright laws, media consolidation, etc. The politicians feel they can do whatever they want without any negative consequences from the electorate, and they're pretty much right. So, they take the bribes and do whatever their corporate pimps want them to do.

The situation here truly is pathetic. People won't even stand up and demand that politicians listen to them, and we have people in Nepal--people who are so poor that life is a struggle just to make ends meet, risk being shot to death to demand their democratic government be restored. And the thing is, they appear to be winning, in spite of the fact that they're unarmed, facing police and troops who are quite willing to kill them. And many people here won't even go out and vote.


rit56

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for dear Tkjunkmail right wing zealot

you as usual are wrong and uninformed.

torrent12

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Re: Not exactly partisan

HOW IN THE WORLD WOULD ANYWONE EVER IMPLEMENT THIS?

Can you restric traffic this specifically on that large of a scale?

Skippy25

join:2000-09-13
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Are you seriously asking this question?

Do a search on traffic shaping, QOS, Routers, packet switching, networking and do some research.


rit56

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Re: Not Repub vs Dem; more like Socialist vs Free Market

admit you're an industry hack. anyone with broadband who visits this site cannot possibly agree with you unless like yourself they are industry hacks.


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Nope...

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Re: Not exactly partisan

^What he said.

If you don't think this is possible or likely, you need to do some reading, and do it quickly. AT&T, BellSouth, and Verizon execs have already said in no uncertain terms that they plan to give priority to sites that they either own, have partnership agreements with, or that pay them for better access. It's been covered on this very site more than a few times. If that isn't enough for you, visit any Internet news site, such as www.news.com, www.wired.com, or slashdot.org and do a search for "network neutrality" or "net neutrality", and you'll have plenty of reading material.

And this won't just mean that a Web site might load a bit slower if they don't pay the telco's extortion. Do you have VoIP service? Well, if it's from an independent provider, it might develop some problems about the time that the telcos roll out their own services. Ditto for online video.

And don't think that this won't also affect cable Internet users. Just because the cablecos have been quiet, don't think they aren't watching closely.

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said by Unregistered User :

Well, it is and it isn't partisan. It isn't partisan in the sense that conservatives would take one view and liberals the other. It's divided more along the lines of which politicians and organizations get more bribes...er...kickbacks...I mean...campaign contributions from the big telcos. In this case, it happens to be Republicans.

Here's the problem with network neutrality, copyright laws, media consolidation, etc. The politicians feel they can do whatever they want without any negative consequences from the electorate, and they're pretty much right. So, they take the bribes and do whatever their corporate pimps want them to do.

The situation here truly is pathetic. People won't even stand up and demand that politicians listen to them, and we have people in Nepal--people who are so poor that life is a struggle just to make ends meet, risk being shot to death to demand their democratic government be restored. And the thing is, they appear to be winning, in spite of the fact that they're unarmed, facing police and troops who are quite willing to kill them. And many people here won't even go out and vote.
It was a pleasure to read your comment!

Please take the time to register at DSLR/BBR and become a regular contributor. This place, like what's left of the larger public forum known as America, is in danger of being overrun with conservative, right-wing religious radicals, troll-like corporate-hacks and pseudo-free-market types espousing the virtues and extolling the benefits of the latest hosing of the American people by their supposedly elected officials and their corporate paymasters.


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Re: Not Repub vs Dem; more like Socialist vs Free Market

said by rit56 See Profile :

you as usual are wrong and uninformed.
said by rit56 See Profile :

admit you're an industry hack. anyone with broadband who visits this site cannot possibly agree with you unless like yourself they are industry hacks.
Um... pick one?
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rit56

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they both seem fine..


rit56

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Re: Not exactly partisan

excellent

torrent12

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Darn patriarchal hippy redneck elitist nazi capitalist feminists ruining everything!
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