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Comments on news posted 2006-04-24 19:05:35: The criticism of AT&T's "Project Lightspeed" network & IPTV upgrade has been that their current VDSL model provides only 25Mbps to the home, with the company allotting only 6Mbps of that to broadband. ..

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UofMiamiGrad
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join:2001-02-03
Great Neck, NY

VZ made the correct move!

This only proves VZ made the correct strategic move with its FTTH deployment despite the naysayers and high price. AT&T will have wasted millions on the deployment of this failed project, oh well. Go VZ go

GhostFreeman

join:2004-06-04
Rising Fawn, GA
AT&T will be forced to catch up

Unless they can get some serious lobbies in their favor, Verizon will make AT&T compete with FTTH.


Raptor
Not a Dumptruck

join:2001-10-21
London, ON
·Rogers Hi-Speed
·Bell Sympatico

Fuel the Competition

At least it's also good to see AT&T might be realizing this now, rather than continuing to press-on in ignorance playing the same old song. Hopefully, they'll try to match or beat which will just continue to fuel competition.

But kudos for Verizon for taking the plunge initially. From my perspective, if offered the same plan from either co., just knowing as an informed consumer (thanks BBR..) that VZ initiated all of this, I'd choose them. Too bad I'm north of the border Fios-less
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insomniac84

join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN

out of ideas?

"We believe AT&T will switch gears from VDSL2 around 25 megabits per second to something faster, possibly faster versions of VDSL2 running on shorter loops with potential for as much as 100 megabits per second"
That quote sounds like they are just speculating about potential technologies that have yet to be invented.


oliphant
I Have 8 Boobies
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join:2004-11-26
Corona, CA
reply to GhostFreeman
Re: AT&T will be forced to catch up

Why? They don't serve the same markets.


dadkins
Can you do Blu?
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join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast

Yawn!

" only 25Mbps to the home, with the company allotting only 6Mbps of that to broadband."

So, if/when they figure out 100mbps?... is it still going to be 6mbps for internet?

What is upstream going to be? 512kbps?
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RadioDoc
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join:2000-05-11
·AT&T Midwest

reply to UofMiamiGrad
Re: VZ made the correct move!

Lightspeed pushes the fiber into the 'hood where copper takes over, but it's not a start-over proposition to replace that bit of copper with fiber later.

AT&T should have just bit the bullet and done FTTH/P from the get-go, but Ed's not as much of a deep thinker as Ivan I guess...

Personally, I think that Ed's plan was to boil the Wall Street frogs by slowly turning up the heat on their pot instead of throwing them into scalding water like Ivan did. A press release stating that they are pushing the FTTP installs into established neighborhoods would kick it up a notch.

However, where in this article does it say AT&T is having second thoughts? All I see are some questionable stock speculation by a third-tier pundit.
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Odie97

join:2006-04-19
Oak Creek, WI

reply to insomniac84
Re: out of ideas? ... STILL?

It is baffling to me as to why at&t continues to refuse to take any real steps to re-invent itself while it virtually has all the marbles in their hands. I guess their blood is so thick (and slow) with the notion that they can bully and push for keeping the status quo is their plan after all.

They need a real heart attach ... and then quadruple by-pass and maybe then they might start to make some smart moves. OR maybe Mr. W. (CEO) will win with his "we'll just buy everyone out and force feed the market our spoiled soup"

Better yet ... maybe those cowboys in Texas all need to take a trip to Brokeback Mountain for some new kinda lovin to get them to sit up straight.

bogey780

join:2004-03-19
Here
reply to dadkins
Re: Yawn!

it's 512 right now. The next gen will be several times higher.


phoneboy2

@shawcable.net

No suprise here!

Just goes to prove my stance that all the huffing and puffing from the Telcos about VDSL2 (Whatever happened to ADSL2, ADSL2+, and VDSL????) was nothing but marketecture BS to make people think they were still competitive.

Technically, it was always obvious that this was nothing but an expensive dead end.


BlahBlahBlahBlah

@shawcable.net
reply to bogey780
Re: Yawn!

LOL! And it's "just around the corner". Sounds familiar. When will you people ever learn. LOL!


TKJunkMail
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Avalon, NJ
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 Duh!! Every analyst has been saying this for months

I guess after reading analysis after analysis saying that with HDTV and multiple STBs in a home and broadband as well that 25 Mbps wasn't going to cut it, AT&T finally agreed. Now they will have to tread water while they come up with a new plan and new capital to get TV to the home.
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20

reply to UofMiamiGrad
Re: VZ made the correct move!

You also have to remember, while VZ put out Fiber, it's NOT a LARGE deploymnet as it's made out to be.

Rolling it out in many cities? Yes... large scale? Hardly. But you are right about choosing fiber over this project slow speed or Prompt-NO that SBC wanted to do for almost a decade now.


GlenQuagmire
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join:2004-02-16
Grand Rapids, MI


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reply to TKJunkMail
Re: Duh!! Every analyst has been saying this for months

If AT&T doesn't take a serious look at FTTP Comcast is going to destroy them. Right now Comcast is offering 8 meg service with 16 in the works even with project lightspeed they were only going to offer 6 megs . POTS if over 100 years old you can't expect that one copper pair is really going to offer the next generation of services. The only way AT&T is going to compete with cable companies is if they do FTTP, anything else is just wasting stock holder money.

markopoleo

join:2003-04-02
Bonne Terre, MO
The problem is not speed, its deployment procedures.

If they want to deploy it to new construction thats fine, but the problem is getting people to know this.

I build developments, getting At&t to work with you is harder than getting the city to work with you.


Fatal Vector

join:2005-11-26

reply to Odie97
I told you


It's the old Ma Bell way of thinking that they never shook off. They have been getting away with it for so long now it has become ingrained in the corporate mentality and has been for years.

Make no mistake: If at&t can put Ma Bell back together, they will, while stomping any competitor they can. The only TRUE way to stop Ma Bell is to allow verizon to offer service in the at&t area and vice versa. Something they are prevented from doing now. Allthough, even that could and probably would result in Ma Bell becoming whole again.

pabster

join:2001-12-09
Waterloo, IA
reply to GlenQuagmire
Re: Duh!! Every analyst has been saying this for months

In other news, the sky is blue...

If AT&T thought at any point that 25Mbps was "sufficient" to deliver next-generation services, they are doomed.


ross96
VIP
join:2000-11-02
Dayton, OH
reply to UofMiamiGrad
Re: VZ made the correct move!

Since when does the "v" in vdsl stand for video?? great article....not.

hottboiinnc
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
reply to oliphant
Re: AT&T will be forced to catch up

They do in some markets where the old SBC Telecom is/was. SBC was a CLEC in some VZ areas, Ohio and in NC for starters.
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