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Comments on news posted 2006-04-26 10:57:15: In Illinois, a key Democratic supporter of a major national law favorable to AT&T is facing criticism for receiving a $1 million grant from the charitable arm of SBC/AT&T, reports the Chicago Sun Times. ..

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jgkolt
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isnt there a cap to the amount of donations they can recieve?


knightmb
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said by jgkolt See Profile :

isnt there a cap to the amount of donations they can recieve?
There is, but you can always find ways to get the money to them, be it illegal, legal, or border-line moral. I think it's often a mixture the legal and border line moral that makes it to their pockets.


qdemn7
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Isnt there a cap to the amount of donations they can receive?
Yeas, but this isn't going to the Congresscritter. It's going to a community center founded by him. But you KNOW he's going to get some of it, one way or another. Probably will put half his "family" on the board or something.
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GhostDoggy

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American Politics for Dummies

Chapter 1: Senators of House Reps, Which are a better result in lobbying monies to?
Chapter 2: Your vote doesn't count, but your money sure does!
Chapter 3: If at first you don't succeed in lobbying your politicians, bribe, and bribe again.
Chapter 4: Good reasons for becoming a politician: double income approach (paycheck plus lobby-bribes)
Chapter 5: How to lie to your constituents without revealing their votes don't really count.
Chapter 6: Offshore investing with lobby proceeds.
Chapter 7: How to pretend your innocent in front of a congressional hearing on your takes.

Feel free to add onto this.


TKJunkMail
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 It's called politics - other congresscritters getting Cable$

Is this really news? Congresscritters get lobbied. Other Congresscritters are getting money from Cable companies to block the bill. It has been this way since 1800. If you want to play, get a group together; collect money; and pay your favorites.

The rich(rich people & rich groups) run the world, they always have, and always will. You can complain about that, but it won't change anything.
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rit56

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there is one thing we can do....... vote and this twit from Illinois should be voted out of office. he's a p.o.s.

pabster

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And it just goes to show... BOTH sides are bought and paid for by these crooks.

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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

Is this really news? Congresscritters get lobbied. Other Congresscritters are getting money from Cable companies to block the bill. It has been this way since 1800. If you want to play, get a group together; collect money; and pay your favorites.
True BUT it is getting to ridiculous levels. When the law is bent so far AND out in the open, people will complain and change will be forced.

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

The rich(rich people & rich groups) run the world, they always have, and always will. You can complain about that, but it won't change anything.
Who says it won't change? Bernie Ebbers didn't think he could go to jail for Worldcomm/MCI. Shilling and Lay didn't think they would be arrested for Enron either.


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there is one thing we can do....... vote and this twit from Illinois should be voted out of office. he's a p.o.s.
You certainly have the right to do that. And if you want him out then voting against him is the thing to do. But if you REALLY want him to lose than you better form a group, organize, and get off your ass and do something. Because if you don't, and he has more money for TV ads(a given for incumbents), then the average voter(who are morons and vote based on TV ads) will put him back in office. And 95% of incumbents are returned to office because of their money advantages. And the 5% of incumbents that lose usually are: convicted while in office; arrested pedophiles; or up against an opponent that has a personal wealth of at least $500 million.

Good luck!
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More daily nonsense rhetoric from the resident, out of touch, free-market extremist.

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The rich(rich people & rich groups) run the world, they always have, and always will. You can complain about that, but it won't change anything.
Could Marie Antoinette speak, I'd bet she'd disagree with you.


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Who says it won't change? Bernie Ebbers didn't think he could go to jail for Worldcomm/MCI. Shilling and Lay didn't think they would be arrested for Enron either.
They made the cardinal mistake. They cost other rich people and groups a lot of money. And they are getting paid back for that. Hate to sound cynical, but that is the way the world works.
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Odie97

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I moved out of Illinois (well, one of the reasons) because just about every politician is crooked beyond belief (the former Gov. just got convicted ... on many counts, current Gov is being investigated and the Mayor of Chicago is "always under investigation" ... though you have to love Mayor Daley, it is Chicago after-all and you gotta love it when he blows his top) The state of IL. notion of constructive and effective broadband development is to form a committee (broadband task force .. which the Gov. does not support ... but the Lt. Gov leads) Go figure that one out !

BUT ... Illinois has some strong guys in DC who can "bring home the bacon" ... yea right, I'll believe that one when I see it. All the IL. politico's in DC (other than Obama) are part of the same machine that is causing this whole mess ... all the money is going "through" Bobby R. in my opinion in order to shelter DH and his cronies.

I'm a cheese-head now so gotta bash IL. whenever you can or they give you a ticket up here ... was part of an oath they make you take when you get a new drivers license


woody7
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 Hmmm......

After the "Abramoff" scandal that is still going on, you would think that these politicians would be smarter than that...oh wait...they are politicians.........
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This is Illinois, where the most recent ex-governor was just convicted on over a dozen corruption charges. Nothing new.

However, Bobby Rush on the take, greased by major corporations? My how the high and mighty have fallen...
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Techman21

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Re: It's called politics - other congresscritters getting Cable$

"If people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny."
- Thomas Jefferson

"I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country."
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viperpa33s
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Self interest

As we can see from this particular politician, he works for his self interests, not the people he is suppose to represent. There is suppose to be balance in a free market but where is it? Politicians like these turn a free market society into a lopsided one. The politician gets the money, fame, glory, and the people get nothing.

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Re: It's called politics - other congresscritters getting Cable$

Wow, great quotes.


anonposter

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Corruption

abromoff was the tip of the ice burg..

The corruption needs to end and it won't until every congress person and senator opens up their financial status to the people of the country.

If you can peer into my life as an open book as a courtesy you should open your books.

Unless of course your trying to hide something.


richardpor
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 If I was in the cable business 13

I would do the same thing. Instead of letting some no-load activist group give me the screw over I would try to lobby congress. The problem is not the money but the attempt regulate a private business. The solution is simple. Business is nobody (beep). You have a right to cable and you do not have a right to force cable to provide certain service. I believe in complete deregulation. If government had no say there would be no need for lobbing. Cable should be nothing more than a voluntary contract between consumer and business. Nobody can apply force. The cable company can force me to buy and I can not force the cable company to provide a service it dose not want to sell.

I lived many years with out a TV. and after paying $110 cable bill, lack of on demand widescreen movies, and cutting me off for some on demand channels because I do not have a digital package, I decide to deep six the cable box. I am sick and tired of broadcast tv. I am not going drop what I am doing to watch my favorite show. I am going to wait for the DVD.

My plan
1. Dump cable ( I will keep the cable broadband for now)
2. subscribe to net flicks
3. purchase streaming of survivor episode if I am in the mood.
4. Use savings for cable bill to buy 24, doctor Who DVD when available
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