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Comments on news posted 2006-04-26 09:18:23: Slingbox owners may be beaming their home TV content anywhere, but they are paying for that content at home, aren't they? That doesn't seem to register with HBO's CTO Bob Zitter, who at a panel this week lamented the place-shifting service. ..

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JSRoman
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How would they know?

Ok maybe I missed something but how would HBO even know if you have a Slingbox connected and transmitting their crap?


qdemn7
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Content Owners Again

Content owners think everyone is a thief. If you invite friends over to watch Subscription Anything, and THEY aren't paying for the service at their house they think that violates Copyright.
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Re: How would they know?

good question....and you can only transmit it to one machine at a time, which is hardly re-broadcasting.

BTW, I was at the SlingBox community forums and received and email from the Forum. Both contained ads for alternatives to SlingBox - one was a software program, others were hardware that all did basically what SlingBox does. Anyone else notice these ads? They really seem to be competitors that I'd never know about if I wasn't looking at the email from Sling and at their own Forums. It was like going to Amazon and seeing an ad for Barnes & Noble. Is SlingMedia in trouble?
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insomniac84

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Windows has a media encoder for free. It's very easy to set it up to broadcast one channel, and with software you can change the channels remotely. But as an added bonus you can set it for many people to view the stream which is rebroadcasting.
Plus this lawsuit would be the same thing as suing cd-burner manufacturers because of illegal music downloads. If this lawsuit wins, anyone who makes anything that in any way can rebroadcast anything will be liable for a lawsuit. The RIAA will sue plastic cup makers and string makers for making the components needed to rebroadcast sound.


lordfly

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Should we mention the free service Orb. Oh no.

Kearnstd
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Re: Content Owners Again

said by qdemn7 See Profile :

Content owners think everyone is a thief. If you invite friends over to watch Subscription Anything, and THEY aren't paying for the service at their house they think that violates Copyright.
this is sadly true, rumor is bar owners cant say buy a PPV of a boxing match in the same way you could at home.
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yes, and your eyeballs must also be rebroadcasting the images into your brain.

so lame. slinboxes only place shift to one place right? with 1/2 a megabit or so of upload, how great can the quality be anyway? it's not like you're getting "broadcast quality" out of it unless you have some real upload... even then, it isn't being "broadcast" anywhere if it's only to one other location.

the cat is already out of the bag with technology.
these "providers" can either sell their services online themselves, or some enterprising individuals will probably figure out how to do it themselves. where's the 'vongo' for other premium channels? Is Starz the only one to have any brains regarding this?

CSU

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Stop fighting technology!

I thought technology was supposed to make things easier and more efficient. All I ever read is how someone develops a new technology and someone else sues because of the new innovation.


tapeloop
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said by CSU See Profile :

I thought technology was supposed to make things easier and more efficient. All I ever read is how someone develops a new technology and someone else sues because of the new innovation.
Welcome to 21st century America.
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older dog
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Re: Content Owners Again

said by Kearnstd See Profile :

said by qdemn7 See Profile :

Content owners think everyone is a thief. If you invite friends over to watch Subscription Anything, and THEY aren't paying for the service at their house they think that violates Copyright.
this is sadly true, rumor is bar owners cant say buy a PPV of a boxing match in the same way you could at home.
I can understand a business not being allowed, since it would be a easy way to bring in customers, who would then be expected to purchase something.
Bars where I live stopped showing video tapes, HBO back in the early 80s for this reason. MPAA lawyers found even the smallest bar back then. The bars that gave free drinks to the local DA seemed immune though

As far as Slingbox lets hope the consumer wins.

DMWCincy

join:2004-04-27
Fairfield, OH

reply to Kearnstd
said by Kearnstd See Profile :

said by qdemn7 See Profile :

Content owners think everyone is a thief. If you invite friends over to watch Subscription Anything, and THEY aren't paying for the service at their house they think that violates Copyright.
this is sadly true, rumor is bar owners cant say buy a PPV of a boxing match in the same way you could at home.
Bars and sports themed resturants can buy PPV but the price is crazy. Last time the resturant I worked at during HS and college years wanted to do something like that it was too high to even consider especially since we wouldn't turn the tables over alot due to people sitting and watching the event.

pabster

join:2001-12-09
Waterloo, IA
reply to qdemn7
True enough!

What is it with these "execs" and their infinite stupidity?

These industries could have reaped BILLIONS had they embraced the technology, instead of spending BILLIONS trying to fight it.


jjoshua
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Ramblings from a dinosaur

HBO? Are they still around?

jebba2005

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reply to Kearnstd
Re: Content Owners Again

Are bar owners charged per person or something ridiculous like that? I seem to remeber when Tyson was in his prime, this was the issue for all his ppv fights.

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Re: Ramblings from a dinosaur

said by jjoshua See Profile :

HBO? Are they still around?
I haven't had a need nor desire to watch HBO in over 10 years.

It originally was a movie channel, they couldn't compete there so they moved to movies with limited sports like boxing and football commentary, they couldn't compete there, so now they move to documentaries (mostly about sex habits), can't compete there, so now its original programming (ie: Sopranos, Six Feet Under). They can't compete there because current technology trumps captive programming.

The current cash cow is the Sopranos and I know some people have 'at home' parties around the new episodes. Some simply wait for a torrent to appear. The DVD's come out within a month or two at the end of the season.

No one expects McDonald's food to stay fresh for more than a few hours, so why does HBO think their programming can be kept in a can for more than 6 months? Cable TV is the McDonalds of entertainment.


qdemn7
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Re: Content Owners Again

said by jebba2005 See Profile :

Are bar owners charged per person or something ridiculous like that? I seem to remeber when Tyson was in his prime, this was the issue for all his ppv fights.
I think they're charged by the maximum number of people allowed by the Fire Dept. Ot maybe not.
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nozzer

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reply to jebba2005
Certainly for big soccer events carried only on Setanta PPV (e.g. some of the world cup qualifiers), Setanta pays an agent to stand at the door and take $25 off everyone entering the bars showing the game!! This is the same price you pay to watch the game in your house on PPV.

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I can see this happening

MPAA has launched a massive lawsuit against all manufactures of coaxial cable. In this law suit the MPAA contends companies such as Belden are encouraging rebroadcasting of copyrighted content because of their encouragement of sales of coaxial cable to consumers. Debbie Dumasaposta spokes person for the MPAA complains it is a copyright infringement to use coaxial cable to rebroadcast a program to another television in a the house without paying for it.
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Toadman
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reply to pabster
Re: Content Owners Again

I agree, HBO and most of these "upper Tier" providers need to rethink their approach.
I would be more likely to subscribe back to HBO if they offered one channel streaming on line. Then when I am at a hotel in Taiwan, I could watch HBO there. Makes more sense to me.

apollo80

join:2002-01-31
Richmond, VA
reply to Transmaster
Re: I can see this happening

As silly and far fetched as your joke is...it will only be a matter of time before thinking like this actually happens. Ah, the irony of truth...
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