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Council Bluffs, IA | Re: Man...Qwest gets even worse news.... Yeah, I can't imagine their shock when they were informed they've been taken out of this  | |
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| | | | Re: Man...Qwest gets even worse news.... Let's use common sense here....if the new contractor was still Qwest, there would be no problem in naming it as the contractor for the new network. So why won't they name it? Common sense says that Qwest lost the contract. Once it's named, we'll see who was wrong. | |
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join:2001-10-21
London, ON | Where's the measurement standard... ..of how many DVDs they can transfer in one second. That seems to be the norm whenever anyone boasts intense speeds. I just can't visualize without knowing just how fast I can screw the MPAA.
That is damn impressive. I know as far as i know, my university isn't running on such speeds. Good for them. Bad for Qwest.
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| | | Re: Where's the measurement standard... I sometimes wonder if secretly some of the professors trade HD movies and tv shows. | |
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| | | | Re: Where's the measurement standard... "Its not pr0n, it's female anatomy research!"
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| | Qwe$t All qwest wants is the money they do not care about there consumers. Qwest has no upgrade plans this should not shock any one at Qwest as they just do not care.
Qwest runs ad's here in Utah about how you can get 3-5 meg download speeds if you have the 1.5 pkg, but when you call they say "Sorry you have not been upgraded yet and we have no plans to upgrade you area" So I am happy that Qwest is going to get fired from this one. | |
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College Station, TX | Bring on the college students... those "10Gbps" are just going to give students more pipe to fill with Bit torrent, etc. I'm going to have to move back on campus so I can download full length movies/games in seconds.
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| | | Re: Bring on the college students... Not sure the students get all the bandwidth Last time I checked UC Irvine's connection, they had only a few 100Mb links plus a few 45Mb links. That and the build all the student housing to only be 10Mb switched, so you only get 1MB/sec download or so. Even with all the file sharing network usage wasn't more than 40% utilized. | |
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College Station, TX | Re: Bring on the college students... not the same over at Texas A&M, everythings on 100mbit routers/switches. | |
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| | | I2 is a totally separate network. So unless you are Peering specifically on your I2 network - no dice. I2 and regular Internet are 2 totally different things! | |
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join:2003-02-16
London, ON | Re: Bring on the college students... Most schools that have an I2 link will route packets over I2 if it's at all possible. It's much cheaper for them to do that way and it's all automatic so students don't have to do anything to download from another I2 school. | |
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join:2003-07-23
College Station, TX | internet2 is what the system defaults to, if it needs something thats off of internet2, then it goes to the universities regular pipe.
also, ever heard of dc++? It is common on our campus for students to be able to download at 20mbit/s or more, right now! | |
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London, ON | Re: That's fast! Except your hard drive can't write more than 40-50 MB per second. | |
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lawrence171Evilly Yours - Evilness
join:2001-12-24
Canada | Inteference? Light pollution/interference?
Man, these people can thing of everything, and often works.
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join:2004-01-06
NYC Metro | Internet 2 Quite cool, now where do I signup?????
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Let them pay for it themselves.
I heard students are using it for piracy.
Kind of stupid.
The dollars should go to a new network everyone can use. | |
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College Station, TX | Re: Why said by »internet2.edu/about/ :
About Internet2®
Internet2 is a consortium being led by 207 universities working in partnership with industry and government to develop and deploy advanced network applications and technologies, accelerating the creation of tomorrow's Internet. Internet2 is recreating the partnership among academia, industry and government that fostered today´s Internet in its infancy. The primary goals of Internet2 are to:
* Create a leading edge network capability for the national research community
* Enable revolutionary Internet applications
* Ensure the rapid transfer of new network services and applications to the broader Internet community.
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Anchorage, AK | Re: Why Sorry for the multiple posts, but I just read something in the AP story that illustrates this:
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Van Houweling said the upgrade is driven by new research needs. For example, astronomers are trying to link radio telescopes around the world, pooling data so they function as one. Van Houweling said the added capacity can also allow U.S. scientists to fully use the world's largest particle physics collider being built outside Geneva.
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Anchorage, AK | Believe it or not, most of the bandwidth that travels over the Abilene network (Internet2 is actually the name of the consortium; the network itself is Abilene) actually is related to research.
I looked all through my technology bookmarks and couldn't find it, but I once visited a Web site that showed a group of researchers at a university in Southern California interacting in real-time with scanners at another university somewhere in the Midwest. The data were shown on a wall-sized cluster of Apple 30" Cinema Displays. Again, I forget the specifics, but we're talking about terabytes of data flowing. I know that up here in Alaska, the University of Alaska Fairbanks runs the Arctic Region Supercomputing Center. It's connected to Abilene via the Pacific Northwest GigaPop (the university doesn't have full 10Gbps speeds up here yet--I believe it's a couple of OC-3s, although I may have read that they upped it to an OC-12). The connection is supposedly quite busy with data being submitted and retrieved from the center.
I'm a little unclear with this news story: the Abilene core network is already at 10Gbps and has been for almost three years now. Is it a misprint and the network's actually heading for 100Gbps (unlikely), or are they working on connecting each university to the core network at 10Gbps? Most universities aren't at full 10Gbps connectivity yet--for example, I believe UC Berkeley's connection to CalREN (which provides connectivity to Abilene) is an OC-12 (622Mbps), and their connection to CENIC, which provides their commodity Internet connectivity, is two OC-3s (310Mbps). That's a long way short of 10Gbps, and they're a major research institution. | |
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Anchorage, AK | Re: Why Just reread the news story, and it is a misprint: the quote from the AP in the tiny print does specify that they're aiming for 100Gbps (while the news bite itself says 10Gbps). As I said, they've been at 10Gbps for three years now. | |
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