Chris 313
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join:2004-07-18
Houma, LA
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1 edit | Uh, Yeah...
AT&T still doesn't get it. They just need to break down and FTTH themselves to have any chance. 25 mbits is already too little for TV and data.
Verizon is the only one who has a chance Vs. AT&T. |
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jammmin
join:2000-12-14
Upper Marlboro, MD
| AT & T/SBC is crap
Deny, deny, deny. SBC/AT & T has been talking about IPTV and Project Pronto for years. Yet to see any rollout.
Verizon came out of the blue and let their feet did the talking with FIOS and FIOS TV in 7 states and growing.
Now tell me, who is talking BS.
Go Verizon. AT & T is crap and they know it. |
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Indymike
join:2004-12-06
Indianapolis, IN | What good is it?
"at 4000 feet"????
What good will this do me as I am 16,000 feet from the CO???
Sheeeeeeeeeesh |
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lemonade
join:2003-12-13
Los Angeles, CA | i am at 9000 feets, i can't even get the ATT new elite pakage (6/700 something...) |
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phoneboy2
@shawcable.net
| It helps keep the investors off their back!
That's all you need to understand!
It's not what is real but what is perceived. It's no different than Enron really! All corporations are the same at that level. Enron just took it one step further and turned it into a religion. An evil incestuous religion. |
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
 ·Comcast
| reply to Indymike
Re: What good is it?
said by Indymike  :... What good will this do me as I am 16,000 feet from the CO??? ... they will do fiber from the CO to within "3000 or 4000 ft" of your house, then use the copper from there. Assuming they do it where you live. |
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tippingtulips
@verizon.net | with NSA
They must be wasting time tipping through the tulips with the NSA and whtiehouse on how to install equipment to spy on customer's data/voice traffic. All funded courtesy of kickbacks from big oil... of course. Fill'er up, premium! |
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Odie97
join:2006-04-19
Oak Creek, WI
| reply to phoneboy2
Re: It helps keep the investors off their back!
ENRON, weren't they were from Texas ... SBC, now at&t they're Texas based now. Haliburton, yep Texas ... and the grand master of it all GWB ... oopps that's not right, Mr. Cheney anyone ... when his name gets into the fray the words evil, incestuous and religion often come up. |
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Rick
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join:2001-02-06
Waterbury, CT
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| reply to Chris 313
Re: Uh, Yeah...
said by Chris 313 :AT&T still doesn't get it. They just need to break down and FTTH themselves to have any chance. 25 mbits is already too little for TV and data. Verizon is the only one who has a chance Vs. AT&T. Me thinks AT&T does get it. What they'll do is to let Verizon spend all their cash building this magnificent network, then wait for them to file bankruptcy and the new mega mergered AT&T will step in and buy the whole company for 3 cents on the dollar.
Didn't you ever hear of @home?
Now it's @AT&T using the same exact formula for success. 
AT&T is probably more in the business of mergers and acquisitions than even the phone business at this point. 
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Chris 313
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| said by Rick :said by Chris 313 :AT&T still doesn't get it. They just need to break down and FTTH themselves to have any chance. 25 mbits is already too little for TV and data. Verizon is the only one who has a chance Vs. AT&T. Me thinks AT&T does get it. What they'll do is to let Verizon spend all their cash building this magnificent network, then wait for them to file bankruptcy and the new mega mergered AT&T will step in and buy the whole company for 3 cents on the dollar. Didn't you ever hear of @home? Now it's @AT&T using the same exact formula for success. AT&T is probably more in the business of mergers and acquisitions than even the phone business at this point. Could be. Only time will tell, huh? |
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jtorre69
join:2005-12-26
Hollywood, FL
| reply to Odie97
Re: It helps keep the investors off their back!
i guess this will prove to be "the beginning of the end" for at&t. BAD MANAGEMENT CALL!!!! Make the most of the time you have and deploy ftth before it's too late!!! DOCSIS 3.0 will not have mercy! 6 meg hsi isn't going to cut it! The swanni has spoken.......... |
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ftthz
If love can kill hate can also save
join:2005-10-17
| reply to tippingtulips
Re: with NSA
said by tippingtulips :
They must be wasting time tipping through the tulips with the NSA and whtiehouse on how to install equipment to spy on customer's data/voice traffic. All funded courtesy of kickbacks from big oil... of course. Fill'er up, premium!
lol could be where all the bandwith is going to as well |
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grandpinaple
join:2006-01-03
New York, NY | reply to Rick
Re: Uh, Yeah...
This is very unlikely as Verizon has way more money than AT&T and Verizon isn't stupid they aren't going to push FIOS to the point of bankruptcy. Anyway AT&T will die long before FIOS drives Verizon into bankruptcy, which won't happen anyway. |
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grandpinaple
join:2006-01-03
New York, NY | reply to jtorre69
Re: It helps keep the investors off their back!
Why would cable deploy DOCSIS 3.0 in stable markets? It makes no sense as cable's service is already superior. |
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jtorre69
join:2005-12-26
Hollywood, FL | then why is it that cable cannot keep up with verizon? I think you are misinformed to say the least. |
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attsbcisgay
join:2003-03-18
Beverly Hills, CA
| reply to Rick
Re: Uh, Yeah...
ATT? wrong it's SBC who has consumed ATT now its called ATT to fool all of ya. Creative and clever aren't they? Here's a little hint. within 2-3 months from today BellSouth is no more. Their price stinks and the customer are paying more then they should.
ATT has ceast to exist long ago. You are living in fantasy land if you believe they are still in existent. |
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rachelsfx
join:2004-09-27
Pensacola, FL
| reply to Chris 313
AT&T is deluding itself
Verizon FIOS, which they've already budgeted for (about $100 billion over 10 years), is the only one keeping up with technology in Telco land.
Cable runs a different system. Unlike copper (24 mgs is max), coax, with the 3.0 standard, could crush them if the cable companies want to do it.
Verizon is quickly establishing itself as the best HSI player while the other Bells play with their OLD toys. I'd hate to be in Qwest territory, which is like a 3rd world country.
Funny, the only player Comcast, a predator that said it wanted to bankrupt the Bells, is scared of is FIOS.
AT&T buy Verizon? LOL! That would be about a $300 billion purchase (T paid $98 billion for BLS). |
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here
| 'Unlike copper (24 mgs is max)'
That is incorrect. The VDSL2 standard is up to 100mb/s and the ADSL2+ standard supports seamless bonding to allow as many multiples of 24mb/s as Bell cares to build out.
'(T paid $98 billion for BLS).'
Incorrect also. BLS hasn't been acquired yet. It's a stock buyout which will be about $65 billion as it stands now. |
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rachelsfx
join:2004-09-27
Pensacola, FL
| T has to accept $21 billion in BLS debt. The original price was $77-78 billion plus the debt making it a near $100 billion merger.
It doesn't really matter: T shareholders will get the stick since it is a "cashless" merger.
If you figure the market value drop of T then BLS stock dropping too, one could argue a replay of Time Warner writing off AOL. In the end, T stockholders will pay dearly for the buyout unless they are willing to wait a few years providing T doesn't bungle it (or continue to lose 3 million POTS customers a quarter).
Exactly where is BLS and T putting VDSL2? 3000 ft from the CO which leaves out what 85% of customers??? |
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here
| Not going to argue the numbers but the announcement had it set at 1.32 shares of T for a share of BLS. Figure it out from there.
"Exactly where is BLS and T putting VDSL2"
You unfamiliar with the colossal number of FTTC customers BLS currently has? |
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