b10010011
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join:2004-09-07
Bellingham, WA
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|  They would have to leave off all the major networks
What channels would be on the family tier? Shopping channels? Halmark? maybe Discovery Channel? (pretty violent sometime) CNN? (Way to violent and too real) I know the would have to leave off ABC, NBC, CBS, and FOX, that is also the local networks. Who wants that?
There should be a public campain that teaches people how to change the channel or use the power switch to turn off the TV if there is something they are afraid of on. |
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ronpin
Imagine Reality
join:2002-12-06
Nirvana
 ·AT&T Southwest
| Show Promos are bad enough
I'm more concerned about everyday "show promos"/commercials for shows like CSI -- that show dead bodies and other carnage -- in prime-time. I'm not a prude or anything -- I just finally had enough casual desensitizing blood 'n gore. It's easy enough not to watch shows like CSI -- but the damn commercials promoting the shows are unavoidable. *THATS* what I'd like to see controlled.
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liquidnw
join:2005-06-05
Bronx, NY
| said by ronpin  :I'm more concerned about everyday "show promos"/commercials for shows like CSI -- that show dead bodies and other carnage -- in prime-time. I'm not a prude or anything -- I just finally had enough casual desensitizing blood 'n gore. It's easy enough not to watch shows like CSI -- but the damn commercials promoting the shows are unavoidable. *THATS* what I'd like to see controlled. Honestly that's the first argument that I've heard that actually makes sense. No technology right now can filter out these commercials. Those who complain about the shows can simply pick up there tv or cable box manual and learn how to block the entire channel or block specific shows by ratings. But nothing can be done about these commercials. |
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AtomicZero
join:2004-11-24
West Palm Beach, FL
2 edits | reply to ronpin
Isn't that what ABC family, and CBS Family is supposed to be about? Frankly I disagree with you and other people who talk about the desensitization of the American viewer. Frankly if the "Family Values commision" had their way. Life would be a fricking Prozac commercial with unicorns and rainbows. The reality is that wars, death and murder...and Janet Jackson's breasts are a reality, they exist. To sit there and blame TV for one's actions is a farce. If that was the case then feel free to explain why there is less violent crimes in places like Japan and the UK where TV censorship is more relaxed?
Let the overly sensitive people buy the bundle and live a filtered life in rose-tinted specs, let everyone else choose what they want to watch. |
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Techman21
join:2005-04-14
Richmond, VA
| Actually..
I like CSI. The difference about CSI is that they don't show those images for the "wow" factor. Its inherently part of the show. Although I do miss shows like The Pretender, Due South, etc. Those were all great shows, yet they restrained how much garbage they aired. Recently I've seen one that reminds me of The Pretender. Its called John Doe on the Sci-Fi network. StarGate is also pretty entertaining, its maintained its success even after it switched from Showtime to Fox, then to Sci-Fi.
Part of the issue is all this crappy "reality" tv. Once the sheep realize that its not really "reality" and its all staged crap, then hopefully people will learn to move on and get back into 'regular' programming. It seems sitcoms have gone into hiding ever since the likes of Friends and Seinfeld have gone off the air. Even those shows were better than this reality TV stuff. Personally I like the two last shows I mentioned, but many people of this group for family viewing don't support those shows, so....we end up with crap like "Fear Factor", "Temptation Island", and the list goes on.
Just my $0.02 |
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haplo2112
join:2003-05-12
Charlton, MA
| Who Cares Bring on the A la carte
Let the FCC mandate what the cable company can charge, A scheme like the cable company currently has packages x, y, and Z. So that they don't charge outragous per channel prices.
Package x costs 69.99 for 100 various channels, so 69.99/100
= $.70 a channel (actually .6999 but I rounded) is the most you can can charge for up 100 channels.
Similar math for the other packages, but economys of scale get involved so the more you buy the lower the per channel cost. |
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scavio
Premium
join:2001-07-14
Melmac
clubs:  
| TWC family tier
said by Time Warner web page :
You must subscribe to Basic Cable service in order to sign up for the Family Choice tier; Family Choice is then available for an additional fee.** Basic Cable channels include local broadcast stations, access channels and other channels that may contain programming geared toward older audiences that you may not want your family to watch. Use the Parental Controls features on your Digital set-top box to block entire channels or specific programs based on time of day, channel and rating. (Please note: a Digital set-top box is required for Family Choice and to access Parental Controls.)
To learn more, read our Family Choice FAQs, or visit Answers On Demand online or on TV – Digital Channel 1100.
The Family Choice tier provides you with family-friendly channels. Add Family Choice for an additional $12.99/month.
Family choice channels:
• Boomerang • C-Span 2 • C-Span 3 • CNN Headline News • Discovery Kids • Disney Channel • DIY Network • FIT TV • Food Network • HGTV • La Familia • Nick Games & Sports • The Science Channel • The Weather Channel • Toon Disney
The implementation isn't as bad as I thought. DIY network, Boomerang, and Toon Disney are all on higher tiers that cost a bundle. If you just wanted basic cable and more channels for the kids without getting all the other stuff (SciFi, ESPN, Bravo, TBS) this might work. $20 a month extra over basic cable (tier+digital box) isn't great to me though. |
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Nightfall
My Goal Is To Deny Yours
Premium,MVM
join:2001-08-03
Grand Rapids, MI
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·AT&T Midwest
·Comcast
| reply to b10010011
Re: They would have to leave off all the major networks
said by b10010011 :What channels would be on the family tier? Shopping channels? Halmark? maybe Discovery Channel? (pretty violent sometime) CNN? (Way to violent and too real) I know the would have to leave off ABC, NBC, CBS, and FOX, that is also the local networks. Who wants that? There should be a public campain that teaches people how to change the channel or use the power switch to turn off the TV if there is something they are afraid of on. I think the only things in the family friendly tier are the religious channels. 
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TKJunkMail
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
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·Comcast
|  No support for Family Tiers; and no support for a la carte
The poll shows there is no support for the family tiers. And when independent polls are done for "a la carte" and the prices are available to make a decision, there will be no support there either. Except for the small percentage of viewers that rarely watch TV.
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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02 | reply to liquidnw
Re: Show Promos are bad enough
I agree. The technology should be available for him to filter out these commercials. The answer, IMO, is the technology already present in parental controls. |
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lew_jean
join:2005-05-13
Marietta, GA | WHY
If people used the V-Chip or locked-out the channels they don't want the little kids to watch then why do we need a family tier?
I want Al-Cart, I spend a extra 35.00 for 2 channels I enjoy on Comca$t Digital Basic tier |
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2lazy2register
@pacbell.net
| is "parental controls" not enough???
how about making the parental controls software better instead of these stupid "family tiers"
I would like to see "custom tiers"
where the individual can pick certain networks and have only those networks. (i think this would enhance competition)
Id be willing to pay the same price($55/month) for a whole lot less channels as long as the channels are the ones I would actually watch.
(FX TNT ESPN FSN USA SPIKE TOON SciFi, and a couple others)
the local channels I can just get free over-the-air
I dont even want any of the news channels (CNN, FOX, etc) stupid propaganda machine (if I want news i'll go online to non-corporate sites)
In fact I really wish I could go without networks and just order the shows I like. |
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RayW
Premium
join:2001-09-01
Layton, UT
clubs:
·XMission
| reply to TKJunkMail
Re: No support for Family Tiers; and no support for a la carte
said by TKJunkMail :TAnd when independent polls are done for "a la carte" and the prices are available to make a decision, there will be no support there either. Except for the small percentage of viewers that rarely watch TV. Yes, when the 'proof' and pricing comes from the ones who want to keep the status quo, you are right. I know that when it is 'proven' to cost the same or more to get the 20 or so channels I want instead of the 80 provided in a 'package', I might as well pay for the package.
Always liked how on one hand they said "Sports channels raised their rates, we have to jack yours" and on the other "If we drop things like sports channels we will have to raise your rates". Makes a lot of sense - if you keep it we have charge you more, if you drop it we have to charge you more.
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keyboard5684
join:2001-08-01
Youngsville, PA
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| reply to AtomicZero
Re: Show Promos are bad enough
Well, I disagree with you.
The point being that yes, we can control what our children watch using technology. No, I do not want my 9 year old watching commercials for CSI, Bones, or gay and lesbian night. I can block the shows but not the commercials.
I think you are missing the point, the "V-Chip" lets us filter out what we want EXCEPT the commercials. Nobody is trying to control what you watch (in fact I will watch CSI when the kids go to bed or are somewhere else), we are trying to control what our children watch.
If you think that taping there eyes open and forcing them to focus on misery and destruction is the ideal way to raise children then fine, it is your choice, but not really too many others would agree with you.
Reality, being what it is, can be explained to a child later on but tricking them into seeing these images before I want them to is not ideal. Why do I have to answer questions about why somebody looks that way when they are burned to death when all they were watching was a kids show?
No, I personally do not care for the tiers, just give me all the channels for cheap and I will block what I want and choose what I want to watch. |
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to Karl Bode
God forbid you filter out the only way broadcasters "supposedly" make money. 
I sometimes wonder if some of these commercials are more violent than the shows themselves.  |
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DaveNJ
No Fear
join:1999-09-01
New Jersey
·Comcast
·Patriot Media
| couldnt we have the drop channel option ?
Like for $10, you can remove the useless channels.
remove the MTV get $5 off
remove lifetime get $5, and SPike2
remove all viacom for $15 off
If you cant ala carte, then remove some instead ?
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Ahrenl
join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA | reply to TKJunkMail
Re: No support for Family Tiers; and no support for a la carte
Seriously. I watch 6 channels tops, and my cable+internet bill is $133's. I have no pay channels. I have the minimum digital tier that allows me to get TLC. If al a carte costs > $70-$80's for 6 channels, I would have to call bull-sh!t. |
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Zoly
join:2004-01-04
Houston, TX
| reply to lew_jean
Re: WHY
There is no point of using V-CHIP - it does not block religious content which I do not want to pay for.
Wait a minute, maybe all those christian, muslim, fake christian channels should be put in one package - Brainwashing-your-kid-bundle. I have no intention on supporting this kind of content and I have a right not paying a penny in order to keep them in business. |
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RayW
Premium
join:2001-09-01
Layton, UT
clubs:
·XMission
| Define family friendly
Unlike what a lot of media presentations like to portray us in the US of A as, we are not a homogeneous melting pot.
We have many religious types ranging from good to evil, mono to polytheist, tree huggers, tree cutters. Those who hate white, hate black, hate green with purple polka dots. No hat is sinful, hat is sinful. Heck, even the way you wave 'come here' can be innocuous or down right degrading and cause for a feud depending on where you are.
How can you make a family tier with all that and more? Whose family do you choose as a baseline? Family tier is nothing more than a smokescreen to prove that the industry knows what is best for us and a possible ploy to get the FCC to rubber stamp a merger.
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RayW
Premium
join:2001-09-01
Layton, UT
clubs:
·XMission
| reply to b10010011
Re: They would have to leave off all the major networks
But if they want the history channel, they have to pay for all the other stuff? Hmmm.... I wonder if I can put that into play at the gas pump. 20 gallon purchases only. Your tank is full at 10 gallons? Oh well, you just helped support someone else who wanted 19 galleons (or my pocket book).
DISCLAIMER:
I do not have pay TV. I do not watch TV. If I could get what I want at a decent price, then I might consider it.
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