manfmmd
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Since when is a single song worth $150K? Sounds like "Howie Math" to me.
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qos1
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That sure does seem like an inflated number, wouldn't you say?
Looks to me like the traditional RIAA, MPAA money grab.
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We have the RIAA, France and Bill Gates mentioned in a single article summary... how many bad jokes will populate this thread within the next hour? 
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jgkolt
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what is a more resoneable cost per song that the riaa sues for? Please site a source and or you logic also. |
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stet
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Re: PFFFT
This value is not generated by the RIAA, it's in US copyright law. $150,000 is the maximum damages that can be awarded for each copyright violation. |
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bigunk
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Considering the quality of what the record companies call "music", I'd venture to say a penny or two per song. Honestly, most new stuff out there is remixed, resampled, regurgitated crap. No value.
Of course, to balance it out, there is some new good stuff. I know there will be those who ask me to define good vs. crap. I'm not gonna. So flame away and realize you're wasting your time.
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manfmmd
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That is my point. Also, people are not downloading pirated material from thepiratebay.org, they are downloading trackers...
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JazzJRabbit
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And coincidentally this is the exact amount RIAA asks for when filing lawsuits. So yes, according to them if it wasn't for the pirates they could buy France right now.
Read more here:
»news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060516/ap_···HJvMDdwB |
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SRFireside
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That amount was meant for violations like someone taking your work and making a mint off of it. For instance if I have a copyrighted song that someone else recorded and then sold a million copies of without paying me royalties. It was never meant for individual copying. |
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manfmmd
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99 cents. That's all iTunes charges.
Or like another poster said, 1-2 cents because what they call "music" today is embarrassing.
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JazzJRabbit
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A little harsh. There is some good stuff out there. However, at most it should be 99 cents going by itunes pricing. Or 89 cents if you go with walmart downloads rofl |
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tsu9
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what is a more resoneable cost per song that the riaa sues for? Please site a source and or you logic also.
How about $16.99 for 13-18 songs? |
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Per song value: $0.99.
Source: »www.apple.com/itunes
The big dollar figures are purely punitive. If 5 people download a song from me, the recording industry has lost $4.95 worth of sales from me. Not $150,000 * 5. Even the $4.95 number is arguable since there is no guarantee that a user would actually want a song badly enough to pay for it.
It's not reasonable to hold a person responsible for the potential spreading that might occur after a download, because that responsibility is passed on to those users. Doing otherwise would be like giving a speeer a $500,000 ticket, because the speeder potentially encouraged other drivers to drive fast as well. That's not how it works, a driver paying a ticket is only paying for his own actions.
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devil24
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said by tsu9  :How about $16.99 for 13-18 songs? The RIAA doesn't sue for such a small amount. They always go for the big bucks, aka $150k per, or when they settle, about $3k per. |
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said by manfmmd :99 cents. That's all iTunes charges. Even if you value a stolen song only at $1 for arguments sake, that is still $76,272,931 in stolen music instead of the $11 trillion mentioned in the story. And that is still a considerable sum of money in a months time.
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blueeyesm
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So, the song 'Happy Birthday' is worth $150k in damages??
The RIAA better go after those evil clowns at birthday parties....
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dadkins
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Where could a person download the FULL bitrate CD quality songs?
Some crappy MP3/AAC/WTF copy is NOT worth $0.99.
Show me where I can *LEGALLY* download an actual CD for the ~$16.99 or less.
One without proprietary DRM BS.
One that I can burn as many times as I need to keep the original pristine.
One that will play in whatever player I choose - anytime I wish.
RIAA can KMA!
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Re: PFFFT
said by JazzJRabbit :...So yes, according to them if it wasn't for the pirates they could buy France right now. No one wants to buy France
But back on topic - I agree that the amount of money asked for in damages is absurd. But in the end, artists and others need to make money and they certainly aren't making the maximum potential with pirates. Sure it's debated as to how much they should be making off of a sale, but I'm not even going to touch that! |
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xmrocks
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Re: Wow...
Hey, don't tempt them because they might
Sort of related, the "Happy Birthday" song is copyrighted, something I didn't realize until this year. So each time it's aired on TV, for example, the producer would need to get permission and pay royalties. According to Snopes, the song brings in $2 million per year! Crazy. |
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manfmmd
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I know, I'm against the illegal music "sharing" that is going on. I'm just giving the figures.
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