  Minvaren Premium join:2001-07-26 Houston, TX clubs: | What's that old quote?
Oh yeah, "child porn is the root password to the constitution"... |
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  Cheese Premium join:2003-10-26 Naples, FL clubs: | So sure.......
They can pass around child porn to get their point across, why not arrest them for child porn possession? |
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  digiblur Got Sipura? Premium join:2002-06-03 Louisiana
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I'm sure once this starts the offshore anonymous web site proxy services will enjoy an excellent stream of revenue!
Let's send more dollars overseas! Excellent idea! -- FWD#64466(6PM-11PM GMT-5) »[Sipura] Make your Sipura Speak! - GetSipura Guide And now for the PAP2-NA and unlocked PAP2's. |
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  mrchris We don't miss you Bush Premium join:2002-10-01 North Babylon, NY | How about..
Dealing with our fucking border with Mexico first!  |
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join:2003-09-27 Wheaton, IL | reply to digiblur Re: Anonymous
Uhmmm... and how do you get to offshore web proxy? Through your ISP of course. At most it will make it harder for ISP/DOJ to see your online activities, but all the information will be there to decode... |
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  Chiyo Save Me Konata-Chan Premium join:2003-02-20 Minneapolis, MN clubs:
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So are we going to create another branch and hire crack heads off the street to sift though millions of peice of data?
Seriously this is so stupid and citing child porn for the reason is uncalled for. Don't get me wrong child porn is sick and the way it gets on the internet is wrong but keep our data doesn't stop it getting there you know human trafficing and what not can go on by not hopping on a computer and typing an e-mail!
Why does the goverment have to snoop so damn much into their own people's life? if they blame terrorism (which they will) and child porn (which they will again) then the goverment can F off. I'm not a terrorist nor am I a pedophile but if someone was I gurentee that they wouldn't find evidance of this person until after the fact when your dealing with so much data to sift though it's like a needle in a haystack.
bottom line all this is stupid and a waste of our time and tax money for the 200 dollars I pay in taxes every paycheck I want to see somthing good.
Sorry for the rant this stuff just gets me going. -- "Sure there have been injuries and deaths in boxing - but none of them serious."- Alan Minter, Boxer"I get to go to lots of overseas places, like Canada."- Britney Spears, Pop Singer |
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This one is for you Justice department. |
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  Jigsaw Stardust We Are Premium join:2000-10-21 Cleveland, OH
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said by Cheese :They can pass around child porn to get their point across, why not arrest them for child porn possession? You can ask yourself this to Who is watching them?In my book the biggest crooks/Criminals are running our Government into the ground may i add as well..... -- »www.auralmoon.com/html/ Stimulating ears for 6 years |
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  Cheese Premium join:2003-10-26 Naples, FL clubs:
| said by Jigsaw :said by Cheese :They can pass around child porn to get their point across, why not arrest them for child porn possession? You can ask yourself this to Who is watching them?In my book the biggest crooks/Criminals are running our Government into the ground may i add as well..... Apparently no one is if they are doing this. |
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I think that the ultimate tool against such invasive measures is a free screensaver that goes out to the major search engines, picks some random words out of a dictionary interspersed with common child porn words and starts spidering the results. Twenty-four hours per day, 365 days per year. They'll never be able to store all the results, let alone parse through them when thousands of people use something like this.
I'm all for stopping child porn; but you're not wiping your ass with the Constitution to do it. Then again, this has nothing to do with child porn. Oh, right now it does. Then we'll move onto terrorism, hate speech and then onto Libertarians, Democrats, left-leaning Republicans...you name it. |
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  Michieru2 zzz zzz zzz Premium join:2005-01-28 Miami, FL
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Can they shut child porn in the united states, sure. Can they do it worldwide, no.
The internet is just that, it only takes one server to host it and it's accessed around the world. They plan to invade every country to remove these criminals? Not likely. So this is pointless.
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  Jigsaw Stardust We Are Premium join:2000-10-21 Cleveland, OH
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said by clickie :I think that the ultimate tool against such invasive measures is a free screensaver that goes out to the major search engines, picks some random words out of a dictionary interspersed with common child porn words and starts spidering the results. Twenty-four hours per day, 365 days per year. They'll never be able to store all the results, let alone parse through them when thousands of people use something like this. I'm all for stopping child porn; but you're not wiping your ass with the Constitution to do it. Then again, this has nothing to do with child porn. Oh, right now it does. Then we'll move onto terrorism, hate speech and then onto Libertarians, Democrats, left-leaning Republicans...you name it. That's pretty much there Goal Im betting.Its for the children really am i the only one sick of hearing that come out of these Fascist's every day. -- »www.auralmoon.com/html/ Stimulating ears for 6 years |
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The Supreme Court struck down the last similar Internet law whose justification was child porn. Gonzalez seems to want to set a new low for Attorneys General. I didn't think we could get worse than John Ashcroft, the guy who lost to a dead person in an election, but Gonzalez may end up being worse. |
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  pnh102 Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty Premium join:2002-05-02 Mount Airy, MD
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said by Chiyo :bottom line all this is stupid and a waste of our time and tax money for the 200 dollars I pay in taxes every paycheck I want to see somthing good. Only $200 a pay? I wish my taxes were that low. -- Tancredo 2008! |
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  crazediamond That's Dr. Craze to you Premium join:2002-01-19 Germantown, MD
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said by Michieru2 :Can they shut child porn in the united states, sure. Can they do it worldwide, no. The internet is just that, it only takes one server to host it and it's accessed around the world. They plan to invade every country to remove these criminals? Not likely. So this is pointless. As much as you want to censorship the internet you shall fail. I'm going to start this off by saying that I don't agree with this plan of the government. I will say though, that the excuse of "we can't stop it everywhere, so why bother at all" is kind of disturbing.
However, I can imagine that their thinking is something along these lines (with respect to child porn, assuming that this isn't some plan to just potentially keep tabs on everything we look up online).
"sure, you can't shut down childporn outside of the us, but depending on the country identifying sites will allow us to pressure their governments to do something about it. furthermore, if we identify people in the usa who are viewing this material, it will allow us to go after them as well." -- And if I show you my dark side, will you still hold me tonight? And if I open my heart to you, and show you my weak side, what would you do? |
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  Pizz Hi
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I think a few million unannounced guests on the Mall might get their attention.
Really, it needs to come to that. These people are out of control. |
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"If you have done nothing wrong, nothing to hide, what's your gripe?....remember, it's about the children....and by the way we want to borrow your house, your car,check your bank account ,see how you vote, who you email etc" 
..........Is it me or are we taking a quantum leap backwards in civil liberties under some bs guise....child welfare, securitie, etc.....There are a lot of ignorant people who buy into this crap.....Didn't we just spend over a half century fighting this crap......? -- BlooMe |
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  richardpor Fur it up
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Million Geek March?? |
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  Nhbass Upside Down Jeep Premium join:2001-01-15 Nashua, NH | reply to clickie Perhaps our so called government needs to look back to what happened 230 years ago when the people of this country had enough of leaders who did not listen. |
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