RayW
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join:2001-09-01
Layton, UT
clubs: | Wonder how long before....
other security products stop working after a Windows 'Security' update?
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Plasticman
Will Work For Bandwidth
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join:2002-09-06
Harrisville, RI
clubs:
 ·Cox HSI
| It's Crap
I tried it and it said that my vnc client was a trojan an removed it with out me even getting a chance to allow the program to keep running.
Now is that a coinsidence or is microsoft stating that any remote client software that they don't have a hand in some way....... they will prevent you from using it as they are not making money from it.
Plasticman
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dbozzo
join:2003-10-29
Roslindale, MA | More Money!
Yes, M$ is going to make a killing on this one!
It makes me wonder how much longer users will stay in the dark before they wake up to an alternative operating system? |
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liquidnw
join:2005-06-05
Bronx, NY
| reply to Plasticman
Re: It's Crap
said by Plasticman  :I tried it and it said that my vnc client was a trojan an removed it with out me even getting a chance to allow the program to keep running. Now is that a coinsidence or is microsoft stating that any remote client software that they don't have a hand in some way....... they will prevent you from using it as they are not making money from it. Plasticman Thats because it is a trojan. VNC clients can be very dangerous to the average personal since they can easily get around hardware firewalls. I also have a vnc client that Windows defender classifies as a trojan. All you had to do was put it in the exclusions list. Do you guys get off by constantly bashing MS before you even think? |
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Necronomikro
join:2005-09-01 | Correction, can be part of a trojan, not necessarily is. I use it for controling my computers remotely over the internet, but, use a VPN to accomplish this. |
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dbozzo
join:2003-10-29
Roslindale, MA
| As a mac user, I have used "Chicken of the VNC". Nice little app with low overhead. It's always a good idea to ONLY use the ports necessary to get the job done. Anything else is just leaving the door wide open. I still stand by my mac for 95% of what I do. Yes I have bootcamp installed, but "Tiger" is still my main OS. I DO have open source AV and spyware removers installed under XP and I DON'T LOGIN AS ADMIN! Since I'm not using XP for the important stuff, if it goes belly up, no biggie.  |
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Plasticman
Will Work For Bandwidth
Premium
join:2002-09-06
Harrisville, RI
clubs:
·Cox HSI
| reply to liquidnw
said by liquidnw :said by Plasticman :I tried it and it said that my vnc client was a trojan an removed it with out me even getting a chance to allow the program to keep running. Now is that a coinsidence or is microsoft stating that any remote client software that they don't have a hand in some way....... they will prevent you from using it as they are not making money from it. Plasticman Thats because it is a trojan. VNC clients can be very dangerous to the average personal since they can easily get around hardware firewalls. I also have a vnc client that Windows defender classifies as a trojan. All you had to do was put it in the exclusions list. Do you guys get off by constantly bashing MS before you even think? Well the online version the MS offers does not allow you to create an exclusion. It just eliminates it. Anything that the online version thinks might remotely be bad it will eliminate it with out asking you and gives you no option to make exclusions
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Lazarus
Slavin Away
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join:2002-06-18
Westby, MT
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| reply to dbozzo
Re: More Money!
said by dbozzo :Yes, M$ is going to make a killing on this one! It makes me wonder how much longer users will stay in the dark before they wake up to an alternative operating system? Users will continue to stay in the dark until the "alternative operating systems" become much more user friendly. As much as *nix users wanna tout how easy the new distros are to use, to the average computer user out there they are still very difficult. *nix distros will continue to be the realm of "geeks/nerds" for a long while IMHO.
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liquidnw
join:2005-06-05
Bronx, NY
| reply to Plasticman
Re: It's Crap
This announcement was for the full blown home version not the online version. I'm sure there is an option for auto-clean which you obviously checked. The same is true of trendmicro's houscall online scan. If you check the auto-clean you won't be prompted to remove anything it will just do it. |
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Brigrat
join:2003-09-01
Lovington, NM | reply to Plasticman
This article isn''t about an online anything. if you download Windows OneCare Live, and use it, then you will understand... |
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itguy05
join:2005-06-17
Camp Hill, PA
| reply to Lazarus
Re: More Money!
quote:
Users will continue to stay in the dark until the "alternative operating systems" become much more user friendly. As much as *nix users wanna tout how easy the new distros are to use, to the average computer user out there they are still very difficult. *nix distros will continue to be the realm of "geeks/nerds" for a long while IMHO.
That alternative OS can be from Apple - www.apple.com/getamac .
Easy to use
Rock Solid stability
Works with most hardware
UNIX based
More secure out of the box |
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inteller
Sociopaths always win.
join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK | I wish Cox would adopt this.
Their current solution is garbage. It has to be the worst antivirus ever written.
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WirelessMajr
Premium
join:2005-08-03
College Place, WA | reply to Plasticman
Re: It's Crap
OneCare is not the only software that will flag VNC as a trojan. PestPatrol will as well. |
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Plasticman
Will Work For Bandwidth
Premium
join:2002-09-06
Harrisville, RI
clubs:
·Cox HSI
| reply to liquidnw
I never select auto clean on any thing as I don't trust ms. their nice little online option even removed my Plogue Bidule music editing program which does not even connect to the net or call out. It said that it was a trojan which it is not. It is a music editing program that I purchased for making DTS Audio CD's.
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| reply to WirelessMajr
said by WirelessMajr :OneCare is not the only software that will flag VNC as a trojan. PestPatrol will as well. Well pest patrol flags just about everything. they really need to work on their FP problems.
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| reply to Lazarus
Re: More Money!
said by Lazarus :said by dbozzo :Yes, M$ is going to make a killing on this one! It makes me wonder how much longer users will stay in the dark before they wake up to an alternative operating system? Users will continue to stay in the dark until the "alternative operating systems" become much more user friendly. As much as *nix users wanna tout how easy the new distros are to use, to the average computer user out there they are still very difficult. *nix distros will continue to be the realm of "geeks/nerds" for a long while IMHO. APPS APPS APPS. the lack of really is what keeps linux out of the mainstream.
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
 ·Qwest.net
| reply to inteller
A Big Computer.....
fantasy of mine is going into a store and on the shelf there is a box that says Apple OSX for PC's, I would drop XP in a heartbeat. But it remains a fantasy 
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dbozzo
join:2003-10-29
Roslindale, MA
| reply to itguy05
Re: More Money!
Here Here!
I've got a 20" imac core duo that I've had for a few weeks. Best machine I've ever owned. I HAVE WINDOWS INSTALLED TOO. But, I don't use Windows much.
I don't have much use except for a few pesky apps. There's a lot of FUD out there on OS X security. Having Dvorak diseminate some of it doesn't help much.
Sorry John, but you need to be more objective. |
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flyingjoey
join:2005-11-07
Jersey City, NJ
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
| Is this crazy or what?
I work for a Network TV provider... I don't think I can say that name, but they own U___ Studios and Islands of Adventure in FL and a whole bunch of more things...
But anyway... I work closely with the guys from engineering and for the past 2 weeks I've been noticing something kind of weird... They have a whole bunch of MacBook Pro's which they are using for testing our in-house applications and some other business productivity programmes.
What I noticed is that... Not one of the MacBook Pros I've seen are running Tiger... They have them all with XP... with our inhouse apps. |
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