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Comments on news posted 2006-06-16 10:05:04: With in-flight broadband arriving on 18 domestic flights in a few months, Wi-Fi Networking News touches on the new problem of a lack of power outlets on planes to help charge your gear. ..

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chemaupr

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Buy a speare battery.

Newer laptop batteries are good enough to last you thru a whole 2hr movies and more... just buy an additional battery. It will probably cost the same that a new charger ...

Jonbo298

join:2004-01-12
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Makes sense to just do that. But some are finicky abuot having to do that =/ But if I was traveling alot for business reasons or personal if I could afford, a spare laptop battery or 2 is something essential for the long trips.

ossito16

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Ok that's enough!

This is getting ridiculous, planes are for flying. Somebody needs to lay the smack down and tell people to sit down and shutup. Flights are not cruises or scenic train rides. I don't want to be on that first flight that crashes because some idiot needed to plug laptop in to check email. The only thing the airlines should be requires to provide is a safe flight. The only we need on a flight is a book or magazine.

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said by ossito16 See Profile :

The only we need on a flight is a book or magazine.
Oh I think I will take a bathroom too on an 8+ hour flight.

I have no issues as long as headsets are required for listening to whatever they choose to view (I play Civ 3 or 4 on long flights).

Just keep the cell phones out the sky, I really hate the loud talking as soon as we hit the ground land.


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This is getting ridiculous, planes are for flying. Somebody needs to lay the smack down and tell people to sit down and shutup. Flights are not cruises or scenic train rides. I don't want to be on that first flight that crashes because some idiot needed to plug laptop in to check email. The only thing the airlines should be requires to provide is a safe flight. The only we need on a flight is a book or magazine.
Lets stick you on a 20 hour flight and see if you wish you had a laptop, internet and a power outlet.
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Re: Buy a speare battery.

said by chemaupr See Profile :

Newer laptop batteries are good enough to last you thru a whole 2hr movies and more... just buy an additional battery. It will probably cost the same that a new charger ...
Keeping laptops from plugging in is a good incentive for laptop manufacturers to push for better battery capabilities so that a laptop can run for 8 hrs without recharging. And the 1st companies that can come out with these at an affordable price will start to cleanup on sales to corporate warriors flying around the country.
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Re: Ok that's enough!

said by ossito16 See Profile :

This is getting ridiculous, planes are for flying. Somebody needs to lay the smack down and tell people to sit down and shutup. Flights are not cruises or scenic train rides. I don't want to be on that first flight that crashes because some idiot needed to plug laptop in to check email. The only thing the airlines should be requires to provide is a safe flight. The only we need on a flight is a book or magazine.
I think someone needs to not fly.

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Well not many people goes on 20 hour flights. I guess you been on to many of them. You need to take a chill pill and layoff on the coffee.


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Inflight power recharge kits? is that a joke?

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The Inflight USB Power Unit is quite interesting as it pulls a trickle charge from the audio plug to provide minimal but useful power to handheld devices and music players. it’s probably two orders of magnitude below what’s needed for laptops.
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Two orders? Might as well be a million. How in the hell are you supposed to interface a device designed to charge USB devices into a laptop? And for that matter who the heck thinks they're going to get enough current out of it?

Maybe if you want to charge you Ipod shuffle or something. Heck maybe even a cell phone....but a laptop? No farkin' way.
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Re: Ok that's enough!

said by CPM See Profile :

Well not many people goes on 20 hour flights. I guess you been on to many of them. You need to take a chill pill and layoff on the coffee.
Uhm. Your not adding to this conversation. BTW thanks for the useless statistic that no one rides 20 hour flights, where did you get that one? I know plenty of people who have taken long flights. Being cooped up in one area even for 8 hours is hard, when all you have to do is sit there and watch some lame movie thats rated G or PG and produced by disney.
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Re: Buy a speare battery.

It's not just battery tech that must change. YOu can get a lappy TODAY that will last 6-8 hours on a single charge. BUT you will not be doing a whole lot on it. It's the power-hungry desktop hardware in some laptops and power-hungry laptop hardware that limit your time. I have a DELL 9300 that is great for gaming, but gets just over 2 hours on a charge. If I reduce the screen brightness I can push it out to 3 hours. THe screen is the single biggest power eater. OLEDs need to come out and NOW!
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said by ossito16 See Profile :

This is getting ridiculous, planes are for flying. ... Flights are not cruises or scenic train rides. ... The only thing the airlines should be requires to provide is a safe flight. The only we need on a flight is a book or magazine.
You've never been on a Trans-Atlantic/Pacific flight have you. After the first 6 hours EVERYONE starts getting edgy. By 8 hours, people are getting downright annoyed. My long flights are usually around the 10+ hour flight.
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Re: Inflight power recharge kits? is that a joke?

/sarcasm Hey, at least when you kill your battery, you can charge it up i 5 hours! /sarcasm
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Lets stick you on a 20 hour flight and see if you wish you had a laptop, internet and a power outlet.
Ok, I will concede that a 20 hour flight is a long time, but there are other things to take up your time. In-flight movie, sleep, and read. Oh wait I forgot one, CONVERSATION. Talk to people, get to know someone. You never know a person mightt actually meet someone interesting and worth while. Of course you can still use laptop for as long as your battery lasts, but I do not want to see people plugging and recharging anything. I do not want to crash because some clown wants to play solitaire for 20hours.


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Re: Buy a speare battery.

You'd think so, but it's not as prevalent as that. I had a Toshiba notebook that would do 5 hours fully functional no problem. I've got a Sony VAIO that will do 4-5 with some minor peripheral disabling (and it has a small battery).

I have a Gateway notebook at work that will do 5+ hours easily. That notebook is Centrino-based and does a fine job even with some apps I run that require pretty heavy CPU utilization. I specifically requested that model when it was ordered because of Centrino and the fact that it's a notebook and intended to be taken places without power outlets. Funny thing though--most people in the company who got notebooks ordered the wide screen P4 based heavier bigger model that gets maybe 2 hours battery life--and they don't even use them for the intensive apps I use my centrino system for. They're used for spreadsheets and email!

So unfortunately while the technology exists to get good battery life, most people are woefully ill-informed to make educated decisions to buy them. They just want "what everyone else has" and the one that has the big pretty wide-screen so they can watch movies. They fail to see the irony that they're buying a portable computer which for all practical purposes isn't portable because it's always got to be around a power source.
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Re: Ok that's enough!

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Other wifi devices

Many new phones and PDA type devices come with wifi now. I had a Windows Mobile 2005 PDA here for a few weeks to test, and the internet access through wifi is pretty cool. That, and you can run all sorts of mobile apps on it, even a terminal server connection. Since you can disable the phone portion of it it won't interfere with anything.

In my opinion Wifi in planes does have a future, laptops aren't the only devices that work with wifi. And nowadays there's quite a few in-between devices.... not quite as powerful as a laptop, but bigger then a PDA and full size keyboard. Great to do your e-mail and browse the web in-flight. Its not like there is much else to do but wait till they land.... especially since the in-flight entertainment on longer flights isn't what it used to be either.
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Power?

Power? Your worried about power?
How do you even use a standard size notebook (notice I did not say large or micro, but standard), in that way to small a space they call your seat?

I don't know about you, but I have almost had my notebook crushed twice when the passenger in front of me tilted their seat back. Passengers with drinks spilling are a totally different topic. Power is not as important to me as keeping my notebook safe. No computer = no work = no pay.

Kearnstd
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Re: Ok that's enough!

laptops dont crash planes, this has been proven. infact mythbusters even has shown that a modern cellphone doesnt screw with the instruments in a modern jet airliner.
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Re: Other wifi devices

Everquest, WOW, EVE-Online.........(id imagine trying to play CS would be too lagged due to aircraft BB being satellite based).
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