LaZ3R
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No.
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grandpinaple
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nasadude
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Rockville, MD | reply to LaZ3R
Re: Will ISPs cache illegal content
will ISPs cache ANY content?
with bit torrent in bed with hollywood, not sure I would want to use that client anyway. |
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lawrence171
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Canada | Legal liabilities, thus no.
Think RIAA and MPAA. |
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TKJunkMail
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said by nasadude  :will ISPs cache ANY content? I think yes. Especially if it allows them to avoid paying more money to the backbone networks. But it will obviously only be legal content, to the extent that they can determine whether it is legal or not. For example, cable companies have legal deals with Hollywood and the NHL and PGA, etc to deliver certain content online. If they can use bittorrent to do that at lower cost, they will consider it. At least Cohen hopes that is the case.
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twizlar
I dont think so.
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Brantford, ON | Hmm
ISP's already have these so called cache servers, its called usenet. |
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voyager6868
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What a waste of time.
1. Most ISPs don't even use a HTTP cache, so why would you expect them to use something like this?
2. How exactly would ISPs distinguish illegal from legal content? Are they going to hire thousands of monkeys to watch the list of cached file parts and make guesses as to what's legal or not?
3. I'm guessing 95%+ of BT traffic is illegal, so even if they could just cache legal content, it's not going to change anything.
Again.. what a waste of time. |
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dadarkside
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Do they mean for download, or for uploaded content? Or both?
Cause it aint the downloading by their clients that ISP's are struggling with. It's the uploading.
The article did not clarify the full role of the Cacheing server. |
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jarosoup
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Re: Will ISPs cache illegal content
So where is the caching software?
I still don't see how this is going to help as there is so much content on BT. Is everyone going to be downloading the same thing? I think not. Is BT going to pay ISPs for the multi-Tb disk arrays required to cache all of this stuff? |
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ElvinPena
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New York, NY | Useless, really...
I'm guessing scripts can/will be developed to "fish out" illegal content. Eventually, though, people would find away around such things. Aside from reducing traffic in-between networks, I fail to see how this would help one single iota. |
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tsu9
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Wheeling, IL | reply to TKJunkMail
Re: Will ISPs cache illegal content
It will probably strictly be things they can secure lucrative deals to distribute content, if that. |
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Warez_Zealot
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said by LaZ3R :No. End of this article Well as far as I know, caching would alleviate the seeds on their network (paying clients) to upload less.
So if the content isn't available to the whole internet (just clients), I think they should do it...
Shaw, Cogeco, Rogers etc.. etc... are all little sniveling babies when it comes to bittorent. IMO they should jump on something like this so they can go back to sucking their thumbs and bottles..
The CRIA Gestapo is basically dead here, so there would be no real ramifications.. ATM anyhoo.. |
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patcat88
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Don't ISPs and telcom providers have rules that protect them from prosecution if they transmit illegal stuff over their networks as long as the transfers were automated and no humans involved (except the end user)? Therefore wouldn't caching be legal? For example, does Netzero accelerator proxy filter their cache for copyrighted stuff and kiddierapandsnuff.com? |
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ssj4android
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Wyoming, MI | reply to lawrence171
Re: Will ISPs cache illegal content
The RIAA and MPAA haven't gone after USENET. Of course, it seems most providers are getting rid of USENET, at least most of the binaries groups. |
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Michieru2
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happyland
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Caching data on our ISP's servers?
Sounds like another great way for AT&T to see what users are doing on their networks.
Unless it's encrypted, of course. |
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lt_wentoncha
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I'm still new to networking, but what will caching do alleviate the network traffic BT creates? It just seems caching will aggregate BT users to a few servers, but would otherwise reduce the amount of BT traffic.
Also, the legal liabilities of this smack of old napster.
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dvd536
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Re: Will ISPs cache illegal content
said by jarosoup :So where is the caching software? I still don't see how this is going to help as there is so much content on BT. Is everyone going to be downloading the same thing? I think not. Is BT going to pay ISPs for the multi-Tb disk arrays required to cache all of this stuff? Hell, ISPs cant even do USENET decent let alone anything like BT caching. Although it would be nice to download at my cap speed rather than 5kb/s.
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reub2000
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said by Michieru2 :The first rule of USENET is to not talk about USENET. Nope. The first rule of USENET is there are no rules, post what you want including spam and troll bait.
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twizlar
I dont think so.
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Brantford, ON | reply to lt_wentoncha
Re: cache
ISP's don't pay for bandwidth within their own network, so less traffic out to the internet = less money spent.
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