fiqqq
Mr. Chainsaw
Premium
join:2003-01-23
Wilmette, IL
clubs:  | hmmm
wasnt the internet invented in order to provide a communications network resistant to a centralized disruption?
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master1000
join:2001-02-22
Fort Pierre, SD
| Only after it happens
Only after something big like this happens will they actually look at the problem and come up with a solution (witch is usually half assed anyway).. Till then they will take the internet for granted as something that will always be there no matter what.. |
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53059959
Temp banned from BBR more then anyone
join:2002-10-02
PwnZone | '
zero cool is still out there too |
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Alphy
join:2001-12-31
Troy, MI | reply to fiqqq
Re: hmmm
Exactly. Sounds like these CEO's are spinning this in order to boost revenue by fear-mongering. I mean yes, the internet is prone to major failure, but what major infrastructure isn't? |
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Cheese
Premium
join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
clubs:
| I can't live..............
Without the Internet, what will I do!!!!!!!!!!  |
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Camelot One
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-21
Sarasota, FL
clubs:
| Why do we keep advertising it?
Its what, ever 3 or 4 months we have another one of these "we couldn't survive an attack" reports? Are we trying to encourage them?
After lengthy review, I have concluded my home is ordinarilly very secure. But if someone were to come along and find the secret key I have hidden under the 3rd rock next to the tall bush.....well then I'd be screwed.
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N3OGH
Bear patrol must be working like a charm
Premium
join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs | reply to Cheese
Re: I can't live..............
In my best Reverend Lovejoy's wife voice..
WON'T SOMEONE PLEASE THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN PORN!!!! |
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Jerm
join:2000-04-10
Richland, WA
1 edit | It would be too easy...
I know in Seattle WA if you were to take out the Westin building downtown the entire Pacific NW's Internet (including Alaska) would be offline pretty much.
That one building hosts, lets see:
Seattle Internet Exchange (SIX) »www.seattleix.net/
Pacific NW Gigapop »www.pnw-gigapop.net/
See: »www.westinbuilding.com/ |
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Cheese
Premium
join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
clubs:
| reply to N3OGH
Re: I can't live..............
said by N3OGH  :In my best Reverend Lovejoy's wife voice.. WON'T SOMEONE PLEASE THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN PORN!!!! Yea, that too  |
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Tsume
join:2004-02-23
Johnson City, TN
 ·Embarq
 ·ViaTalk
 ·Comcast
| reply to fiqqq
Re: hmmm
Who was that... Level 3 and cogent or something? Screwed over lots of RR and other ISP customers. Level 3 made it so lots of websites were inaccessible from those ISPs with certain peering agreements.
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adriang5555
join:2003-12-09
Amarillo, TX
| CEOs Talking About Stuff they Know nothing about
This is a panel of CEOs who probably know very little about how the internet actually works. Each ISP and major backbone provider is responsible for there own piece, and they work through security threats to thier own network each and every day. If there was some sort of massive attack that caused huge outages or disruption, each ISP, enterprise's IT teams, etc would work to identify the problem, fix it, and get thier portion secured and back online. Sure, there is potential for nasty security threats by very smart people, but there are also people who are just as smart who work to combat these threats and get information out to those who need help. So, just like with any other outage due to a security issue or other attach, the actual infrastructure suppliers who's pieces actually make up the internet would work to isolate the issue and secure and restore thier portion as quickly as possible. Major backbone providers monitor there networks with a fine tooth comb to immediately identify any major issues and stop it closest to its source, and with the tools they have its not hard to do. The only true way for a complete catastrophic failure to occur that would keep the "entire internet" down is if the entire country was to loose power for weeks or months, but if that were to happen then the internet would not matter at that point anyway. It would be the last of our concerns |
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ctceo
Premium
join:2001-04-26
South Bend, IN
clubs:
·magicjack.com
 ·AT&T U-Verse
·Comcast
·AT&T Midwest
 ·HughesNet Satellit..
| Such Horsefeathers
Where do these CEO's come up with such DUH stories...
Studies show that hitting oneself in head usually hurts. A double blind study shows that when a person regardless of age or sex smashes oneself in the head with their own fist it hurt 99.5% of the participants. /end sarcasm
If the Internets going to go down, then maybe we shouldn't have become as complacent in the trust that we have put in internet connected storage devices.
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Zeb
Premium
join:2000-07-10
Lewisville, TX | reply to Tsume
Re: hmmm
If we are talking about the same thing.. it's because these ISPs didn't pay their Level3 bills. |
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bgraham
join:2001-03-15
Smithtown, NY
·Verizon FIOS
| Just a PR Piece
Just a bunch of PR work.
If you destroy half of any infastructure the other half has a struggle to cope. This applies to the internet, roads, the countries electrical system and the phone system.
If I remember correctly according to what i read in the press, it was tough to get on the internet in New Orleans after Katrina.
I am sure a couple of 15 year old kids in high school in China or Russia could bring the internet to its knees in a few days if they wanted to using hijacked zombie computers. |
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averagedude
join:2002-01-30
Mesa, AZ
·Cox HSI
4 edits | Greatest danger from
backhoe |
edit for pic |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
·DSL EXTREME
| reply to Alphy
Re: hmmm
While the Internet can handle outages through re-routing of traffic, I suspect that this is more of a case that some businesses would suffer from their SLA's. I.e. email, browsing may be slowed, however, items such as IPTV or other bandwidth hogs could be disabled, especially if going outside the country. |
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Joe12345678
join:2003-07-22
Des Plaines, IL
| reply to master1000
Re: Only after it happens
said by master1000 :Only after something big like this happens will they actually look at the problem and come up with a solution (witch is usually half assed anyway).. Till then they will take the internet for granted as something that will always be there no matter what.. that sound like what happened with the power gird and how much as been done to fix that? |
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mlundin
join:2001-03-27
Lawrence, KS
·Sunflower Broadband
·Comcast
| A snapshot....
How easy is the internet to take down? Well let's take a look at a snapshot provided by the University of California's San Diego Supercomputer Center: »www.caida.org/analysis/topology/···network/ |
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mbnt
join:2002-06-22
Clifton, NJ | Really now..
since when has the U.S. been prepared for anything?
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master1000
join:2001-02-22
Fort Pierre, SD
| reply to Joe12345678
Re: Only after it happens
There are far more devastating examples of what happens when people don't think ahead (New Orleans) so it's the same mentality for Government and Corporate America. Seems like allot of people think that this stuff can never happen then when it does everyone blames everyone and why didn't we think of taking care of this earlier and so on and so forth. I can guarantee that this report won't change a thing anywhere it's just going to be another discussion that disappears until an event actually happens... |
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