TechSponge
join:2001-05-14
Hillside, NJ | Sure, But only
if you live IN the C.O. or in the cardboard box next to the RT. They cant even clean up the copper to provide 3/768 11k ft. out.
Paleezzzze.... |
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missingdate
@verizon.net
| 2018 maybe?!?
Umm, NOTHING verizon does with DSL technology is "ON-TIME" if you must know and this is proven FACT (going all the way back to 1996 and the former Verizon tentacles--ahem, bell operationg companies aka RBOCS)! You'd have a much better chance of getting 100/100 out of FTTP ont's than vdsl deployments! Unless the manufacturers want to make equipment for cracker scraps and wages even a chinese laborer wouldn't work for... than you MAY see VDSL on a closer timetable.. heh , heh, heh. It's not even worth the grain of salt you need to take this with..
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DaveNJ
No Fear
join:1999-09-01
New Jersey
 ·Comcast
·Patriot Media
| docsis 3 will appear when needed
Cable has been the winner on internet connectivity for years, and dsl/fios is just catching up. Once cable feels a threat they will react, DS3 will appear once telco dsl up the ante. But either way its going to be incremental why would the telco tip there hand early, when they can go up 2m at a time ?
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the darkest moment is often just before dawn (unless we hold onto the darkness). Anxiety spoils everything and solves nothing. |
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meskinct
Mad Scientist at Work
Premium
join:2002-01-07
Danbury, CT
clubs:
·Comcast
 ·magicjack.com
1 edit | Hello AT&T - This is what is needed
"While AT&T is struggling to fit a single HD channel into the 20 Mbps Lightspeed, Verizon will be able to run five HD 9 Mbps channels and 50 Mbps of data."
Maybe they (AT&T) will wake up someday. Maybe... Please wake up! Please. 
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silica
join:2004-05-20
Duluth, GA | reply to TechSponge
Re: Sure, But only
They only have to go (up to) 600 ft within an apartment building. |
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hescominsoon
join:2003-02-18
Brunswick, MD
·Comcast
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to DaveNJ
Re: docsis 3 will appear when needed
REally? Hrmm i don't hear of onerous caps with dsl nearly as often as you do almost with a certainty on cable. I have 3/768 and it jsut works great. 6/512 jsut doesn't apeal as the upload is what counts these days with attachments getting larger and games requiring more bandwidth. |
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KONG4
join:2002-04-05
Tampa, FL
| reply to meskinct
Re: Hello AT&T - This is what is needed
Actually VZ will be able to run the full 100 mbs and offer more than 5 hdtv channels at once on one piece of fiber.
The fiber line actually carries 10 different wave lengths or colors of laser light if you will. Only one wavelength is used for data. And one wave length can hit gigs not just megs per second. The other waves are used for other services in the fios rollout. That's not all there is to fiber optic rollout, the capacity is so much higher. But this is the easiest way to explain it with out getting super involved. |
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meskinct
Mad Scientist at Work
Premium
join:2002-01-07
Danbury, CT
clubs:
·Comcast
·magicjack.com
| Yeah, let's not get all technical talking about lambdas, GPONs and such we'll let them do that here »book.itzero.com/read/cisco/0512/···ec2.html
All I'm saying is that AT&Ts thinking that FTTN will be sufficient is flawed. They should call someone at VZ to get a clue on how to build a network.
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Nymostwanted
Who Cares?
Premium
join:2004-06-25
New York, NY
·RoadRunner Cable
·Time Warner VOIP
| Sounds good...
We all know that 100% FiOS deployment is far away into the future. VDSL will be an option to "soothe" desperate customers and also to maintain their DSL clientele from migrating to Cable. Good move Verizon! Me, personally, am 1300 feet from the CO, but switched over to Cable. If Verizon rolls this out, I'm definitely switching back. |
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richyrich
@optonline.net | how much?
ok, 30mbps/5mbps fios cost $179.95/month. so 100mbps/16mbps DSL that has distance limits will cost $599.83/month. that seems like a big hit. |
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soothsayer15
join:2002-03-01
Irving, TX
2 edits | reply to TechSponge
Re: Sure, But only
TechSponge
Sure, But only
if you live IN the C.O. or in the cardboard box next to the RT. They cant even clean up the copper to provide 3/768 11k ft. out.
Paleezzzze.
You were the first poster and you didn't even read the article. The fiber goes to the basement of the apartment building, then out to the phone lines already installed in the building. Make your points with facts instead of hate. |
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Subaru
1-3-2-4
Premium
join:2001-05-31
Greenwich, CT
clubs:
·Packet8
| I would pass...
As a Former Fios User and then Coming back to Verizon DSL What I pay a Month $35 that only gets me 1.5/384 (Should be 3/768) BUT I had about 1,000 more feet to play with or I would of Had no DSL at all.
However $35 a month on Fios gets me 5 Mbps/2 Mbps |
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Heterman
Premium
join:2004-02-28
Fayetteville, AR
| reply to meskinct
Re: Hello AT&T - This is what is needed
I think at&t has more up their sleeve than they are letting on. I have heard rumors of a 25Mb service sometime near the year end, after they squeeze everyone for 6Mb. It's simple business strategy. There is no need right now to just "plop" 25Mb out there. Sure, it would be nice, but that is not how business works.
I have also heard similar numbers as posted above on the HD bandwidth that Verizon claims. I think at&t said theirs is something like that.
I just wouldn't be so hellbent on saying 6/1 is all the bandwith that is going to be available. I think (and hope) there is more in store, something the rumor mill hasn't got a hold of. |
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TheOtherPete
join:2001-06-28
Boyds, MD | I don't believe it
This has been posted for 2 hours and none of the usual NARAD fan-boys have piped up about how NARAD will offer 100/100Mbps for cablevision users and is available now?
Amazing. |
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Hellrazor
join:2002-02-02
Abyss | Health risks of 100mb
What will the nerdlings do with 100mb? Insurance rates will go up from all the injuries to their wrists from the p0rn streams. |
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
·Qwest.net
| I see
I see...Yes...perhaps in the next 50 years 100Mbps |
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
| reply to richyrich
Re: how much?
said by richyrich :
ok, 30mbps/5mbps fios cost $179.95/month. so 100mbps/16mbps DSL that has distance limits will cost $599.83/month. that seems like a big hit.
And where did you pull that / assume that from? History has shown that as technology advances prices go down or the value goes up for that same price.
I love how people come just here to post hate and flame messages. |
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majortom1981
join:2004-08-26
Lindenhurst, NY | reply to TheOtherPete
Re: I don't believe it
Well IF you go by this article cablevision does have some deployments of 100/100 too. |
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rachelsfx
join:2004-09-27
Pensacola, FL | reply to TechSponge
Re: Sure, But only
Yes, the CO is inside your house! You qualify for 100mbps/512k!
How much?
$599
Your kidding?
Nope!
I'll take FIOS instead.
Sorry, your county won't allow it.
Those sons-of-b**ches!
Yep! |
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here | reply to meskinct
Re: Hello AT&T - This is what is needed
Uhhh...essentially Verizon's plan as listed here is FTTN/FTTC. AT&T's plan with pair-bonding can accomplish the same thing. What's the problem? Do you hate the copper that much that you'll hate it even if it does the same job? |
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