homeshark
join:2001-03-09
Saint Petersburg, FL | don tuse it
I dunno why
i never use it |
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Fountainhead
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join:2003-10-25
New York, NY
clubs: | How can YouTube afford to stream all this data?
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dadkins
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join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
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1 edit | LOL!
"... how YouTube gets away with hosting a plethora of copyrighted content clips without facing legal trouble."
Simple! The videos are so grainy/pixelated that they cannot be confused with the originals!
A digital copy with 3 out of every 5 bits missing... 
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Goober
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Naperville, IL
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| said by dadkins  :"... how YouTube gets away with hosting a plethora of copyrighted content clips without facing legal trouble." Simple! The videos are so grainy/pixelated that they cannot be confused with the originals! A digital copy with 3 out of every 5 bits missing... Whether you were joking, I don't know, but I have a feeling that's one nail you hit squarely on the head. |
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inteller
Sociopaths always win.
join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK
1 edit | Oh REALLY?
Then how come the RIAA and MPAA cares about thepiratebay.com then? After all they are just hosting the links, they make no promises about the content? Does it mean that if thepiratebay removes the ads off of link pages everyone will leave them alone?
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King P
Don't blame me. I voted for Ron Paul
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join:2004-11-17
Franklin, TN | reply to Fountainhead
Re: don tuse it
Investments from dot bom venture capitalists.
It was in Business 2.0 a few months ago but they received several million in cash from some Silicon Valley venture capital firm. |
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MAR_03_2002
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1 edit |  YouTube will be sued by big players soon
YouTube has been using the ISP dodge to host copyrighted material. But you can bet every nickel that the MPAA and the RIAA and the Hollywood studios and TV networks can muster that an all out legal attack is in the planning stages. And as the reporter at »arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20···273.html says: "YouTube, as a kind of Internet software, is "designed and promoted to aid in infringement" (to borrow language from the ruling). You may recall the the Supreme Court Justices pinged Grokster for failing to "develop filtering tools or other mechanisms to diminish the infringing activity using their software."
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Alpine
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join:2000-01-11
Atlanta, GA | Maybe, but I see it as ending up like BitTorrent. After being the pirates' hero for years, Cohen is now working with the powers-that-be to legitimize BT.
Look for the same with YouTube.
Adam |
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Goober
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join:2000-12-17
Naperville, IL | reply to inteller
Re: Oh REALLY?
I'd imagine that the xxAA look at thepiratebay.com people as contributory infringers, not actual infringers. |
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xerxes3642
join:2006-02-24
Saint Charles, MO | they delete stuff
because they delete anything that is flagged as copywrited. You can go on and e-mail a complaint about anybody's video calling it copyrighted and they delete it no question and wait for the owner to protest. |
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
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Re: YouTube will be sued by big players soon
said by MAR_03_2002 :YouTube has been using the ISP dodge to host coyrighted material. But you can bet every nickel that the MPAA and the RIAA and the Hollywood studios and TV networks can muster that an all out legal attack is in the planning stages. And as the reporter at » arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20···273.html says: "YouTube, as a kind of Internet software, is "designed and promoted to aid in infringement" (to borrow language from the ruling). You may recall the the Supreme Court Justices pinged Grokster for failing to "develop filtering tools or other mechanisms to diminish the infringing activity using their software." Funny thing is NBC did a story about them and they know their clips are there and they leave them be because the free advertising is better than anything they pay for.
NBC is part of Universal so they have some pull. |
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Jason Levine
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join:2001-07-13
USA
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Actually, the article's exact quote is:
While not exactly the same thing, it is important to note that the legitimate uses of P2P did not, in the end, protect Grokster. Rather, the ruling in Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios v. Grokster left open the very real possibility that a disgruntled copyright holder could argue that YouTube, as a kind of Internet software, is "designed and promoted to aid in infringement" (to borrow language from the ruling). You may recall the the Supreme Court Justices pinged Grokster for failing to "develop filtering tools or other mechanisms to diminish the infringing activity using their software."
The reporter isn't presenting this argument as his own, but as a hypothetical argument that a potential RIAA/MPAA lawsuit might take. (With the idea being that YouTube would need to develop some content filtering technology to keep the infringing videos from being uploaded.)
The big debate will not be over the 5-10 minute clips of shows being put online in a grainy, tiny video clip, but over amateur music videos. On one hand, the song *is* copyrighted. On the other hand, the music quality is often poor. (Or so I've heard not having viewed them myself.) A potential pirate would probably be better off finding the latest song on their favorite P2P network than finding a video for it on YouTube, playing it, ripping the poor quality audio, and possibly doing some clean up work to get it into relatively decent shape.
IMO, there are bigger threats to the music industry than some 14 year old armed with a video camera who thinks that they are a great singer/dancer. And considering that the music industry really isn't losing any money off of these videos, they would be better off using their legal funds in other matters. |
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peter_m
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join:2005-07-13
Canada, QC
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Re: don tuse it
Gotta be expensive! Wonder what the revenue model will be. Are they going to sell the vids to someone looking for content? Are they going to create an adult section with fees? I haven't seen one single add on that site... which I enjoy but how will they survive? Unless it's just a social experiment and when the funds run out, they pull the plug? That can't be right... |
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st7860
join:2004-05-13
San Francisco, CA
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Re: they delete stuff
said by xerxes3642 :because they delete anything that is flagged as copywrited. You can go on and e-mail a complaint about anybody's video calling it copyrighted and they delete it no question and wait for the owner to protest. exactly. if the so called media owners weren't so lazy, they could just hire a couple people to go through youtube daily to look for their property. |
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Fluker
join:2005-04-07
West Lafayette, IN
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Re: Oh REALLY?
Another thing is that youtube content is of lower quality and wrapped very nicely in flash as well as requiring streaming to watch. TPB on the other hand directs you to copies that are very sometimes lossless (DVD isos, flac etc) and are very ready to be transferred to other media. |
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
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join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
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Re: LOL!
No, I'm dead serious!
Try watching one of those small, pixelated, wornout videos on a high res screen.
Here... see what I have to look at on YouTube(see pic)
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sivran
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| What's Slimbrowser doing in that screenshot? Dadkins is an Opera-holic! Who are you, and what have you done with dadkins? C'mon, fess up! 
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morbo
Complete Your Transaction
join:2002-01-22
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clubs: | reply to st7860
Re: they delete stuff
i don't think it's laziness. i think it's money. they don't want to pay for that. BUT they'll pay some lawyers out the ass to sue them in a few months-years. what a scam.
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
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join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA | reply to sivran
Re: LOL!
I use both at all times!   |
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JohnQPublic
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join:2002-03-22
Xanadu
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Re: don tuse it
said by Fountainhead :How can YouTube afford to stream all this data? The answer is simple. Volume! 
»www.commonsense.wnymedia.net/Vid···ger_.wmv
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