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Comments on news posted 2006-07-20 10:42:02: Verizon has traditionally used the lure of utopian broadband deployment to nudge state lawmakers into changing laws they don't like. ..

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oliphant
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Franchise agreements are needed...

...but they have to be reasonable. I'm in favor of statewide agreements so long as they provide decent consumer protection which is the purpose for them. What I would like to see limited or eliminated through statewide agreements are these extortion operations local government tries to run where in order to get the franchise the providers have to build a bunch of other completely unrelated crap or whatnot.

Artec

join:2003-02-23
Middletown, NJ
This is why I am calling on everyone that reads this and live's in NJ to call the office of the Gov every day for the first week and then 2xtimes a day and so on till this bill gets signed!


pnh102
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Useless State Government

Maybe Verizon should have lobbied for another 1% sales tax hike in NJ and have their franchise agreement attached to that. It would have passed in a heartbeat.
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ss4vegito7

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Cranbury, NJ
Oh

So thats why my town doesn't have FIOS yet!

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reply to oliphant
Re: Franchise agreements are needed...

That is what keeps a lot of companies from expanding when the state wide franchise laws are passed it gives a much fairer shake to the telcos and cable cos.

In all honesty this should have been done quite some time ago. The local buffoons in many areas hold out in hopes of getting free cable for themselves and other "perks" so they can abuse their power and screw their neighbors in a effort to make themselves richer.
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tsu9

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The problem (corruption) should be fixed, and the solution does not have to deny the local populace's proper place in the scheme of things.


JPuppy
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In addition to consumer protection, I opposed this bill because it takes power out of the local municipalities. I have much more voice with my Mayor than my Governor.
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reply to oliphant
The problem is that the local goverments loose all power in this arrangement, what would make alot more sense would be that they get the statewide franchise. But each town has the right to lodge complains and have an avenue for resolution. This way if a town is getting neglected they have some power. They need to give them the franchise, but each town has to have the right to enforce service standards.
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oliphant
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reply to JPuppy
The locals can be a problem when they go beyond protecting consumers and move to fleece the provider in an extortion scheme to solve their budget problems.


tsu9

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Yeah, but you don't screw the constituents further by skipping over their former legal rights and whatnot.


oliphant
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What screws the constituents are providers not deploying because they refuse to bow to local extortion attempts. A statewide general consumer protection platform benefits everyone who needs benefiting.

My point is only that a provider deploying shouldn't equal a payday for mismanaged municipalities.


calvoiper

join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA

VZ can't think outside the box....

Maybe Verizon's problem here is that they aren't thinking creatively enough.

They are trying to mirror the video delivery of cable and satellite. Shouldn't they just scrap the whole "broadcast" mentality and go for "on demand" video as a data service?

Of course, this would require true entrepreneurial spirit--something almost entirely lacking in a corporation made up almost wholly of century-old monopolies and run by dedicated monopolists.

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tmc8080

join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY

stapped for cash

well, now that NJ raised their sales tax to make it more expensive for just about EVERYTHING in NJ.... dont' think they won't want some goodie$ from Verizon as well-- don't forget, POTS taxes are still a REALITY in the garden state.. but cable tv franchises might have to be re-negotiated, so just when you think your out of the tax man's game, they pull you back in..


Ream0

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It's A No Brainer!

.....Just write the governor a bigger check! After all,Bribery is what Verizon does best!


Rob A
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Why the stall?

I wonder what is keeping corzine from signing, he said previously he was in favor of a statewide franchise agreement.


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reply to pnh102
Re: Useless State Government


please, please, please, please
said by pnh102 See Profile :

Maybe Verizon should have lobbied for another 1% sales tax hike in NJ and have their franchise agreement attached to that. It would have passed in a heartbeat.
That was just what I was thinking Governor Jon Corzine, using the California model of how to run off your tax base, is probably carefully examining the bill to see if he can squeeze any taxes out of it.

To any business in New Jersey, Wyoming has no state income tax, a very low crime rate, and a great business climate we would welcome you here and would not regulate you out of existence. In fact our cities would probably pay your way to relocate. Please, pretty please
»www.wyomingbusiness.org/ Really!

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reply to Rob A
Re: Why the stall?

said by Rob A See Profile :

I wonder what is keeping corzine from signing, he said previously he was in favor of a statewide franchise agreement.
Corslime won't sign yet becuase there isn't any money in it for him. Plain and simple.


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reply to DaveNJ
Re: Franchise agreements are needed...

said by DaveNJ See Profile :

The problem is that the local goverments loose all power in this arrangement, what would make alot more sense would be that they get the statewide franchise. But each town has the right to lodge complains and have an avenue for resolution. This way if a town is getting neglected they have some power. They need to give them the franchise, but each town has to have the right to enforce service standards.
Actually, the bill addresses the concerns you raised here: »www.njleg.state.nj.us/2006/Bills···4_U1.HTM

Do a search of the bills text using the following search terms:
"Standards of maintenance"
"complaint"
"Section 9 of P.L.1972"
Section 10 of P.L.1972
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reply to oliphant
Currently, these telcos are handpicking deployment spots. If they think they're being fleeced by the municipality, then they don't have to deploy there. This is the argument that ATT is using in Illinois. That they have the right to choose where they deploy!

op

join:2005-07-16
Smyrna, DE
Redline question

Will this statewide franchise agreement give VZ the ability to redline or not?
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