  Crashdude
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it is all a setup DIGITAL SPIES ON YOU
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  58483323 Gurt me
join:2003-06-23 Normal, IL | Cingular sucks.
Enough said. |
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  insomniac84
join:2002-01-03 Schererville, IN | Why?
Why would anyone still be using an analog phone? |
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  pnh102 Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty Premium join:2002-05-02 Mount Airy, MD
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| Is Analog Still Required Out West?
I did one cross country trip between 12/2003 and 01/2004 and found that with Cingular, i was SOL without analog when i was in the middle of nowhere in Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, Utah, Texas and Arkansas (I had a GAIT phone at the time).
The most recent trip I did (back in 05/2006) found that I at least had GPRS coverage in most of the above areas. I still had a few outright dead areas in southern TX and northwest Arizona.
It seems that there has been an improvement in digital coverage in these areas. Do people who live there think that analog is still needed? -- Tancredo 2008! |
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  Boomerang86 Got FUD? Premium join:2002-10-18 VampireState clubs:
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| reply to insomniac84 Re: Why?
said by insomniac84 :Why would anyone still be using an analog phone? You've got a few thousand folks with older analog only equipment, mostly installed in automobiles. Very few of them have monthly billing; most are OnStar customers or use a credit card for the occasional emergency call.
Analog (AMPS) is 25 year old technology, guess it has to die someday. -- Life is a journey; death is a given. |
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  Jim Gurd Premium join:2000-07-08 Plymouth, MI
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| said by Boomerang86 :Very few of them have monthly billing; most are OnStar customers or use a credit card for the occasional emergency call. I believe GM contracts exclusively with Verizon to provide service to On Star subscribers so this shouldn't affect them at all. Verizon and Cingular have roaming agreements in place and I doubt this will affect them either because the rates and terms are already set in the contract. -- Correlation does not imply causation. |
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  kalphearion In nomine Patri Premium join:2003-11-08 Denver, CO clubs: | reply to 58483323 Re: Cingular sucks.
said by 58483323 :Enough said. Second that |
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  CrazyFingers
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| Why do analog users hate America?
It is your duty as a patriotic American subject to immediately buy the newest version of whatever product/service is offered, regardless of benefit or necessity. This is critical to the USA winning the War on Terror, the War on Drugs, the War on Crime, and the War on Science.
Please, think of the children who will grow up to be our brave servicemen who will grow old and become our revered senior citizens who will then die and desperately need the estate tax repealed! |
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 cgar
join:2006-06-26 Lewis Center, OH | reply to pnh102 Re: Is Analog Still Required Out West?
I have a Sony Ericson dual mode phone both digital & analog. It is about 5 years old, any idea if I will be hit with the fees also? Most calls are digital but some are still analog when I am not near a big city. |
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  Jim Gurd Premium join:2000-07-08 Plymouth, MI
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| reply to pnh102 said by pnh102 :It seems that there has been an improvement in digital coverage in these areas. Do people who live there think that analog is still needed? I don't know about that area but I can tell you that GSM is becoming more prevalent in rural areas.
Last year I was in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. There was almost no coverage in the eastern 2/3rds of the UP. This year I noticed much better availability. It seems that a lot of the older networks (both TDMA and AMPS) are being converted to GSM (at 850MHz).
Now not every place had service but I expect it to keep getting better with time. The UP actually had pretty good TDMA coverage back in the day when I had a TDMA phone. -- Correlation does not imply causation. |
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  R4M0N Brazilian Soccer Ownz Joo
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| reply to CrazyFingers Re: Why do analog users hate America?
said by CrazyFingers :It is your duty as a patriotic American subject to immediately buy the newest version of whatever product/service is offered, regardless of benefit or necessity. This is critical to the USA winning the War on Terror, the War on Drugs, the War on Crime, and the War on Science. Please, think of the children who will grow up to be our brave servicemen who will grow old and become our revered senior citizens who will then die and desperately need the estate tax repealed! LOL... That was actually a good one.  |
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| reply to cgar Re: Is Analog Still Required Out West?
I have the exact same problem. Although I'm a Sprint user and not (yet) subjected to any analog fees, I too travel into areas that do not have any digital service. And since I'm on my motorcycle when I'm in these analog only areas, I need some sort of service in the event of an emergency. I don't care if it's $10 a minute, if I have a flat or a bike break down, I need service. Thus, I carry a tri mode phone and can never leave Sprint for T-Mobile or US Cellular or any of the digital only carriers. At least not until the entire analog service all over the country is converted to some flavor of digital. -- You can't walk a straight line girl... if you're wearin crooked shoes |
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  kruser Premium join:2002-06-01 Saint Louis, MO clubs:
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| reply to insomniac84 Re: Why?
said by insomniac84 :Why would anyone still be using an analog phone? I own country property south of St. Clair, MO and the only thing that works is my old analog Motorola bag phone. It works great while a GSM phone has absolutely no signal.
Last fall there was a roll over accident on the road and one person died. They say the other would have died if they had not received the emergency call quickly which was made from the bag phone. So that is my main reason for keeping analog and will be forced to pay this extra fee until they shut the analog signal down..
Plus the digital conversion delay sucks on every carrier I've ever used (Cingular, Verizon and Nextel). Digital may be better for squeezing more signals into a given bandwidth but they need to work on the delay that is introduced. |
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  HappyBunny Hi. Cram It. Premium join:2001-06-23 Long Beach, CA | reply to R4M0N Re: Why do analog users hate America?
It is actually not analog people they are punishing, its people using TDMA, which is digital. |
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  tsu9
join:2001-08-17 Wheeling, IL | Uhm..
Has Cingular seen what adding additional fees for older customers does? You know, like AOL's dialup users?
I assume that means that they simply want to lose customers, eh. |
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  pnh102 Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty Premium join:2002-05-02 Mount Airy, MD
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| reply to swilliams Re: Is Analog Still Required Out West?
said by swilliams :And since I'm on my motorcycle when I'm in these analog only areas, I need some sort of service in the event of an emergency. I don't care if it's $10 a minute, if I have a flat or a bike break down, I need service. I'm not so sure about Sprint, but when I had a tri-mode (GAIT) phone with Cingular, I was actually roaming on Verizon's analog network out west, and had I wanted to make any calls, I was told by a recording that I would need to provide credit card information to the operator. So it might have come out to $10 a minute  -- Tancredo 2008! |
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  R4M0N Brazilian Soccer Ownz Joo
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1 edit | My wife still uses her trusty TDMA
Remember that phone on the first "Charlie's Angels" movie? Yeah, my wife bugged the hell out of me to get her one of those. She got it under oath that she would use it until it died of natural causes (no "forgetting" it inside a pocket and putting it to wash).
Well, it's been quite a few years now and the only reason she kept cingular after it bought Suncom here in Richmond is because she talks like a cheerleader on steroids and she has the old "unlimited" plan from Suncom (I dare not put that woman on a set amount of minutes per month).
The second I see a $5 charge on her bill (I have t-mobile), she's out of there. Unlimited minutes be damned. She'll just have to learn to shut up for a few hours per day.
What he heck is cingular thinking? It's like they are trying to make themselves the AOL of the wireless world. |
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  R4M0N Brazilian Soccer Ownz Joo
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| reply to HappyBunny Re: Why do analog users hate America?
said by HappyBunny :It is actually not analog people they are punishing, its people using TDMA, which is digital. You mean that wasn't a joke? |
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| reply to insomniac84 Re: Why?
said by insomniac84 :Why would anyone still be using an analog phone? Good point. Cingular is just taking the steps necessary to phase out old systems and equipment. And they are doing it over several years until early 2008. Some users will just not upgrade unless incented to do so. -- -- Join Red Room Forum BLOG tkjunkmail.blogspot.com My Web Page |
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said by R4M0N :she talks like a cheerleader on steroids (I dare not put that woman on a set amount of minutes per month). If your wife ever got my wife's cell number (or vice versa) we'd shut down the matrix! -- What's certain about Darwinism is that it would take less time for (1) a single-celled organism to evolve into a human being through mutation and natural selection than for (2) Darwinists to admit they have no proof of (1) - Ann Coulter |
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