 amungus Premium join:2004-11-26 America clubs: | haha
All I can do is laugh. This could get interesting if this tool does any good.
Score 1 for Mike. |
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 shashinka
join:2000-09-16 West Boylston, MA | I agree, this is a great tool to stick it to da man! |
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  h4x0r3d Premium join:2003-04-13 Oxford, MS | I second that |
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  Dennis Premium,Mod join:2001-01-26 Algonquin, IL | Cool but doesn't sound revolutionary to me
Sounds like it's just a modified port scanner... |
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  TKJunkMail Enjoy the sun Premium join:2002-03-03 Avalon, NJ
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Just what the internet needs - hundreds of thousands of pseudo regulators generating useless overhead on the internet trying to prove that no discrimination is going on.
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 grandpinaple
join:2006-01-03 New York, NY | That is partially correct TK it depends on exactly how net neutrality and this tool will work. It is too early to make a judgement. |
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  vpoko Premium join:2003-07-03 Jamaica Plain, MA
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said by Dennis :Sounds like it's just a modified port scanner... Modified is the key word here. Port scanners don't have the ability to impersonate other protocols (a port scanner can send a packet to port 80, but it's not going to be an HTTP packet). This tool also seems to have some spoofing capabilities, though I'm not sure how that would work. We'll see... |
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  Dennis Premium,Mod join:2001-01-26 Algonquin, IL | yeah but is it really trying to do that, or just trying to find out if an ACL was blocking that port. |
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 pabster
join:2001-12-09 Waterloo, IA | reply to TKJunkMail Re: Just more useless internet traffic
Is that you, Ed? |
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  vpoko Premium join:2003-07-03 Jamaica Plain, MA 1 edit | reply to TKJunkMail Seems like an educated consumer is important to a healthy marketplace.
And you can blame the AT&T's of the world for starting this arms race with their suggestion of a "better busines model" for the internet. |
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  vpoko Premium join:2003-07-03 Jamaica Plain, MA
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The article only says "...or is being used for a certain type of application." That could be taken to mean by port number or by the packet signature. I'm guessing (though I don't know) that he meant the latter, since otherwise it would just be a port scanner like you said and hardly news. But we shall see. |
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  firephoto KDE Premium join:2003-03-18
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Yes, we should only be allowed to have internet traffic that is related to politics or or stock market data... or wait, that wouldn't work because that truly is useless traffic. Think of the bandwidth that could be saved if all political internet traffic was outlawed! -- Location: +48° 5' 23.40", -119° 48' 30.00" |
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Not terribly revolutionary at all. Pingplotter has similar options and has had them for awhile now:

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  gatorkram Spelling and Grammer impared Premium join:2002-07-22 Winterville, NC clubs:
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I'd be more interested in being able to test voip packets, or bittorrent and other such things that some isps might have an interest in trying to block, or otherwise degrade performance. It seems to me like this app might do the trick. I'm not so sure its a new and unique idea though. -- Give me bandwidth or give me death! |
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  72276539 Premium join:2001-01-19 Atlanta, GA
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said by shashinka :I agree, this is a great tool to stick it to da man! How about finding out the truth without predetermined thoughts? -- RIP Dimebag- August 20, 1966 to December 8th, 2004. |
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 rgoltsch
join:2001-03-04 Caldwell, NJ | reply to gatorkram Re: voip / bittorrent
Now I'm just waiting for the latest update to my TOS at Verizon stating that using a tool that disguises packets is not allowed.......OK, I'm just a little cynical
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  guitarzan Premium join:2004-05-04 Skytop, PA
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Come on, TK, with a such a tool.
Give us the honorary command.
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  avantare Go Tribe
join:2000-02-16 Farmington, MI | reply to rgoltsch Re: voip / bittorrent
How could they tell? And what are they trying to hide then?
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  MacLeech The one and only Premium join:2001-07-14 SoCal
1 edit | Tool looks for "2nd class", but will it detect "FedEx"
Right now pretty much all the traffic on the internet is "best effort".
Everybody concerned about "net neutrality" is moaning that a 2-tier system means somebody's data traffic will be demoted to "2nd class" traffic....
What if everybody's traffic is already "2nd class" because it's "best effort" and the "second tier" will be a higher priority "FedEx class"?
Will this app detect that? -- 117+ RF channels of mixed video and data bouncing down fiber and coax for miles and you expect it to work right the first time, all the time? Do you realize how complicated this actually is??? |
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 shashinka
join:2000-09-16 West Boylston, MA | reply to 72276539 Re: haha
So having a tool to check is bad? Not sure I understand where you are coming from. |
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