furlonium
Computer Over? Virus equals Very Yes?
join:2002-05-08
Bethlehem, PA
| Compared to South Korea? Are you kidding?
COULD create a similar trend here in the US. WON'T is the better word. Not enough broadband penetration, and the speeds in most the areas isn't up to snuff.
I don't know what's so "less appealing" about the physical media. I can make backups, take DVDs to friend's houses (who may not have broadband, or a computer at all), and I like the extras that sometimes come with DVDs, like posters, or figurines, etc. |
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
 ·Comcast
| DVDs... meh
After I see a movie, I RARELY wish to watch it again.
Kinda like reading a book the second or third time... 
Most new movies aren't worth watching anyways. 
If there was a realistic pricing scheme, many people would just download the movies. But seeing as the Movie Industry is DRMing the hell out of movie download services(ala Movielink, etc.)... movies have lost their appeal almost all together.
Price for Blue-Ray drives and media will need to drop drastically before it really takes off. But then again, DRM is the killer.
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tdkyo
join:2002-12-07
Rochester, NY
| VOD dominance also killed DVD
Korea also has an extensive VOD service that has been running for YEARS. A lot of Korean TV networks have been offering free/fee-based VOD for online viewers to view any (almost all) TV episodes that was aired on TV. I know the article is focusing on movies, but I wanted to add this thought also. |
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Omega
Displaced Ohioan
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join:2002-07-30
Cheyenne, WY
clubs:  | reply to furlonium
Re: Compared to South Korea? Are you kidding?
I will take a DVD any day over streaming media.
I am sure most people feel the same way. |
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Goober
Premium
join:2000-12-17
Naperville, IL
·Comcast
·WOW Internet and C..
| reply to dadkins
Re: DVDs... meh
said by dadkins  :After I see a movie, I RARELY wish to watch it again. Kinda like reading a book the second or third time... Most new movies aren't worth watching anyways. If there was a realistic pricing scheme, many people would just download the movies. But seeing as the Movie Industry is DRMing the hell out of movie download services(ala Movielink, etc.)... movies have lost their appeal almost all together. Price for Blue-Ray drives and media will need to drop drastically before it really takes off. But then again, DRM is the killer. Yeah, I don't watch movies more than a single time. But, my kids do, and they like watching them in the car or at the grandparents. So, for us DVD media is important.
At home, I rip DVDs to xvid and store them on a multimedia server. My kids wirelessly stream the Xvids through a modded Xbox running XBMC.
So, for other than portability reasons, I would say the demise of DVDs is not a big deal. |
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
 ·Qwest.net
| reply to tdkyo
The Dot-Com
Did not bomb in Korea, so it is not suprising what is happing there. More power to them. 
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hayabusa3303
Over 200 mph
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join:2005-06-29
clubs:
 ·QuantumVoice
·AT&T Southeast
·RoadRunner Cable
| death of DVD?
THe death of it has been going on for sometime now. With HD-DVD and Blu-ray i dont think it will matter. With prices $600 or more for players and 1000 for recorders i dont see it happening in the near future.
With HD-DVD and blu-ray it will take alot of bandwidth just to download one movie at what 25gigs. vs what 5 dvd's to the same room. Even if you had 100mbps speed. |
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chemaupr
join:2005-06-06
Alexandria, VA
| reply to Omega
Re: Compared to South Korea? Are you kidding?
you feel like that because our current download options and ISP services do not support those options. But, I would prefer streaming media.
I have been using Movielink and Cinemanow and I like their services.(if they were just cheaper!!) Personally, I do not really care of owning DVDs.. once I see a movie I'm not really interested in seeing it again. I will love to pick from and stream DVD quality videos in a solid broadband connection any day, i just not a possibility today |
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Kxpuc
join:2004-05-04
Houston, TX
| reply to hayabusa3303
Re: death of DVD?
said by hayabusa3303 :THe death of it has been going on for sometime now. With HD-DVD and Blu-ray i dont think it will matter. With prices $600 or more for players and 1000 for recorders i dont see it happening in the near future. With HD-DVD and blu-ray it will take alot of bandwidth just to download one movie at what 25gigs. vs what 5 dvd's to the same room. Even if you had 100mbps speed. i get tired of hearing about the price of the player and disc it's so typical they are high just look at anything in the past when it first came out. VCR, mobile phones, cars, etc |
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owenhome
keeper of the magic blue smoke
Premium
join:2002-07-13
Bentonville, AR
| reply to furlonium
Re: Compared to South Korea? Are you kidding?
Once, or rather, IF our speeds here in the USA Inc are fast enough that it would take longer and be less convenient to pick it up at the video store, it will become a trend.
Personally, I much prefer to have my DVD's cached on my media server so I can just click-and-play. If I could just download the movie in the same quality that DVD's have, I would be all over it. But today, an 8.4G download is going to take A WHILE. Plus, it would save me the hassle of ripping them.
I do own every movie I rip, just so you know. The hard copies just collect dust and my Denon $2500 universal player has been relegated to DVD audio and SACD duty pretty much exclusively.
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Fatal Vector
join:2005-11-26
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Which is exactly the rub.
"I don't know what's so "less appealing" about the physical media. I can make backups, take DVDs to friend's houses (who may not have broadband, or a computer at all), and I like the extras that sometimes come with DVDs, like posters, or figurines, etc."
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"After I see a movie, I RARELY wish to watch it again."
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"Price for Blue-Ray drives and media will need to drop drastically before it really takes off. But then again, DRM is the killer."
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There are too many uses for CD media of all types and it is not likely to go bye, bye any time soon. Especially when one can record his own.
Price has allways been the deciding factor. Especially when you observe that in many cases, the success of something depends on how well the bleeding edge freeks are willing to shell out their cash.
"Blu ray", etc, is just the newest step in the same tired marketing game that the computer and peripheral makers have been using since the beginning: More capacity, more speed, or, ideally, both.
Dont get me wrong: In most cases this is a good thing because we end up getting more for less, but only if we wait to buy till the upgrade freek/corporate market has forced the prices down to a more reasonable range. IF, of course they even do.
Well, with CD media, speed is out because of proven physical constraints and that leaves only more capacity, just like with the hard drives today. Packing more on a drive/CD is the only way they can keep prices up and sooner or later they will run into physical restraints, just as Inttel and AMD seem to have done with CPU speed vs heat, etc.
Besides, if streaming ever does get a good foothold, what makes anyone think the people who rip and record today wont tomorrow? CD medis IS, after all, the best way to store media and data.
I dont know why everyone insists on comparing the U S to south Korea. It's stupid and meaningless, just because of sheer size alone, let alone anything else, like individual cultures. |
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rachelsfx
join:2004-09-27
Pensacola, FL | reply to dadkins
Re: DVDs... meh
Get Netflix.
How hard is Netflix? |
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Westofhere
join:2005-04-07
Monroe, WA | preach it brother. |
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juicelee
Premium
join:2000-12-04
Hacienda Heights, CA
clubs: | reply to Omega
Re: Compared to South Korea? Are you kidding?
Right now the preference is probably for DVDs over streaming movies, but I would gladly jump on video over IP if the technology and content were in place. Paying a small fee to watch 1080p movies over a 100Mbit connection sounds appealing. |
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viperpa33s
Why Me?
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join:2002-12-20
Bradenton, FL
·Bright House
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Re: Which is exactly the rub.
said by Fatal Vector :
I don't know why everyone insists on comparing the U S to south Korea. It's stupid and meaningless, just because of sheer size alone, let alone anything else, like individual cultures.
This is true when comparing how people do things in different countries. What we think what people do in another country is wierd, those people think is normal and part of everyday life. I bet some South Koreans think we are wierd for some of things we do in the U.S.
My point in comparing the U.S. to South Korea is, they invested early in broadband and the U.S. is taking it's ol sweet time. It would be more like how Europe had 150mph trains for years and the U.S is just catching up. |
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thender2
Glamour Profession
Premium
join:2004-05-16
Staten Island, NY
| I'd love bluray and HDDVD, but..
You know it'll be locked down so much you won't be able to play it on a computer, which is what my hifi and HD monitor is hooked up to. Dare I try to rip TV episodes and movies off of them so I can play them on my PMP either, I'm sure they'll make a criminal out of people who do that also.
I doubt they'll be interesting formats.
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tmc8080
join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY
| so goes Korea, so goes the world?
I don't buy this crap that S. Korea is the test case for ultra-wide broadband's affect on society, or other technologies such as the dvd. The industry is not concerned about making a product that pleases would-be pirates of the internet, now would they? Not if the video and audio recording industries have any say about copyright law/drm rearing their ulgy head in the technology, at which point, they become DOORSTOPS, PAPERWEIGHTS, IRAQ POLICY, BP Amoco's AK pipeline, etc. |
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ftthz
If love can kill hate can also save
join:2005-10-17 | ... dvd still here
lol... South Korea has alot more fiber and speed compared to US on the whole |
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sapo
I eat meat
Premium
join:2002-09-16
Sacramento, CA | reply to rachelsfx
Re: DVDs... meh
Its fast but takes over 24 hours.
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