Subaru
1-3-2-4
Premium
join:2001-05-31
Greenwich, CT
clubs:  |  WTF??
I thought they said VOIP providers did not have to pay into it??? |
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rastamonsta
join:2002-04-21
Seattle, WA | Rediculous as always
Another reason FULL disclosure of the total needs to be a law for these scumbags..
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N3OGH
Bear patrol must be working like a charm
Premium
join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs
 ·Verizon FIOS
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| What a ripoff
But I've got to say I'm not surprised. The average consumer only looks at the bottom line. Verizon knows most people won't notice or care.
But I think it stinks....
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axess_denied
join:2004-07-23
Long Beach, CA
| Typical
"The surcharge helps offset costs we incur from our network supplier"
I'd love to be in a business where I could charge for a product, and then add additional fees to charge again for the same product.
This doesn't even have the appearance of being anything BUT a BS fee meant to boost profitability.
Ah well, like all the other bogus fees and surcharges, I suppose we just get to swallow them like usual.
Sure love my Voice Pulse VOIP - the price I get billed is the monthly service charge - no other crap (although perhaps that will be changing thanks to the ruling cited). |
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owenhome
keeper of the magic blue smoke
Premium
join:2002-07-13
Bentonville, AR | Eh?
Soooo, basically, what they are doing is charging the same amount, but instead of passing the money on to the fund, now they just keep it?
Nice.
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tmc8080
join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY
| call it what it is: price INCREASE
don't be STUPID or live back in the 1980's anymore!
it's a price increase, now you have a choice:
buy the service, or cancel the service.
Plain and simple, stop whining about it, and think about your bottom line, either you want it or not. Just like the price at the PUMP, either you pay it and bend over, or not and stay home. |
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY | DIsband the FCC!
'nuff said... |
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Subaru
1-3-2-4
Premium
join:2001-05-31
Greenwich, CT
clubs:
 ·Packet8
| reply to owenhome
Re: Eh?
said by owenhome  :Soooo, basically, what they are doing is charging the same amount, but instead of passing the money on to the fund, now they just keep it? Nice. Thats what it looks like to mne :-/ |
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markofmayhem
join:2004-04-08
Pittsburgh, PA
| reply to tmc8080
Re: call it what it is: price INCREASE
Not to nit-pick, but the fee being taken away is more than the fee being added, so your bill will be going down (only by a few pennies it seems). How is paying less an increase?
Either way, the FUSF was a BS charge all along, everyone knows that. The question I've always had: Is it better to have a bill completely broken out or "all-in"? When it's broken out, I get to see which areas my money goes to, but the "advertised price" is never accurate since they only advertise the real portion than tack on the other line items. The all-in price matches the advertised price, so I know what I'm going to pay before hand, but then I have no idea where my money is truly going.
As a consumer, I tend to lean towards the all-in price. |
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kbennett
join:1999-08-30
San Diego, CA
| Speakeasy does the same
Just got my latest bill from Speakeasy. Of course the FUSF fee was reduced from $4.35 to $0.00, but, strangely enough, the "Regulatory Compliance Fee" was increased from $3.71 to $6.90! Amazing that their cost for "Regulatory Compliance" increased even though they don't have to collect and track the FUSF fee anymore. I would have thought it was less work for them... 
When I challenged Customer Service to explain this, this is the response I got:
"The FCC updated its FUSF policy regarding broadband services, making the FUSF optional. As of this coming August 14, broadband providers will no longer be mandated to contribute to FUSF. Speakeasy decided to no longer forward the FUSF charges to its customer.
We will be removing the Federal Regulatory Fee, as you can see the Federal Regulatory Fee is now $0 in your invoice, but will be fusing this to Regulatory Compliance Fee to make the invoice much simplier.
The combined Taxes saves you about 1% from 6.95%."
Gee, what a deal...  |
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MxxCon
join:1999-11-19
Brooklyn, NY
clubs:
| said by kbennett :as you can see the Federal Regulatory Fee is now $0 in your invoice, but will be fusing this to Regulatory Compliance Fee to make the invoice much simplier.
The combined Taxes saves you about 1% from 6.95%." so if they are fusing USF(which is $0.00) with 'regulatory compliance', how come it increased?
this is so disgusting 
i would be so happy if somebody started class action lawsuit against ALL service providers that include this kind of bullshit.
or pass a law similar to airline fares..advertized price IS the price you will pay.
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA | w00t!
Gotta love Verizon! |
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Rothan Tik
Premium
join:2000-11-07
Danvers, MA | so...
I save .10c ? |
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ftthz
If love can kill hate can also save
join:2005-10-17 | typical
wow |
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Mactron
el camino Real
Premium
join:2001-12-16
CM94sv
| reply to N3OGH
Re: What a ripoff
It's one more reason I rate Verizon as ... THEY SUCK !
Don't get me started on their CS !
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Kxpuc
join:2004-05-04
Houston, TX
| reply to markofmayhem
Re: call it what it is: price INCREASE
said by markofmayhem :Not to nit-pick, but the fee being taken away is more than the fee being added, so your bill will be going down (only by a few pennies it seems). How is paying less an increase? it's still a price increase not based on how much you pay but how much they are charging. The FUSF was required they didn't have to raise their part of the price up. |
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markofmayhem
join:2004-04-08
Pittsburgh, PA
| Which brings up the same old argument since the FUSF fee was first introduced.
Would you rather see a bill for $24.88 or $23.98? Your saying that the bill for $23.98 is an INCREASE over $24.88. Yet, if Verizon stopped listing charges and just had:
Internet: $23.98
You would freak out. But at least you wouldn't be stressed over an "increase" that lowered your monthly bill. Is the raising of this fee good? Absolutely not. But knock it off with the "Let's call it what it is, an increase" threads. The FUSF fee went into Verizon's pocket from the get go. They handed over the money to the FCC and the FCC handed it right back. Their clever model for naming charges and fees never ceases to amaze me, but in the end I pay a monthly bill with one check, not the individual charges. The dollar amount on my checks went down, so I will call it what it is: a price decrease. |
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Rob
In Deo speramus, God Bless the USA
Premium
join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL | FiOS Needs Funding!
Come on Verizon DSL Folks, FiOS program needs funding and Investors are getting worried! Now they got their extra funding.  |
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calvoiper
join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA | Yeah.
It's called a cost reduction windfall from the FCC.
calvoiper
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chemaupr
join:2005-06-06
Alexandria, VA
| reply to N3OGH
Re: What a ripoff
Their actual thoughts were... well, since our customers are not going to pay for the FUSF fee we can charge about the same amount and pocket the money!!!! Only the few hundreds that go to BBR will notice and complaint!  |
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