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Comments on news posted 2006-08-17 11:38:43: This discussion over at Dave Farber's IP Mailing List illuminates the problem with VOIP, namely that extended power outages drain both consumer and remote site batteries, causing headaches. One local stumbles upon a cable tech keeping a phone net.. ..

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kdandaoc

join:2003-10-13
608052427
Geez....

Maybe they should try the Sony batteries!


flame_to_the_fire

@verizon.net
fan the flames

ok, tar and feather this comment all you want!
NOW we know who will buy all those defective recalled Lithium ION batteries from deLL!


cableties
Premium
join:2005-01-27
·Verizon FIOS

Throw in a bigger one...

Aside from yelling "We need more green-friendly resources like solar and wind..." I just threw a APC SmartUps 3000Va ups in the closet that the Fios equipment is connected too...so when THAT thing goes, well, I think I am in need of OTHER things (water, essential AC...)

When the Fios tech was installing theirs, I asked if I could have it tie-in to mine and he smiled, that will be just fine!


pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
Premium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast

said by cableties See Profile :

Aside from yelling "We need more green-friendly resources like solar and wind..." I just threw a APC SmartUps 3000Va ups in the closet that the Fios equipment is connected too
How does a battery fit in with "green friendly resources?"

Manufacturing and disposing of batteries is one of the worst things you can do to the environment.
--
Only SHATNER is Kirk.

michaelk

join:2003-01-01
Cincinnati, OH
Time Warner Digital Phone

I have an enormous UPS (12 hours), but it does not make a difference, when their system goes down so does the phone & roadrunner. I thought they had some sort of backup on their end, or are we just screwed in my area? Any feedback?


ftthz
If love can kill hate can also save

join:2005-10-17
people and comanies

need back up generators

bogey780

join:2004-03-19
Here
Telco vs Cable VOIP

Bell got this all figured out decades ago with POTS. The cable companies are still stumbling along because a solid power standby solution is very expensive and provides nothing to help profits.


en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
·DSL EXTREME

My POTS line (same price as TimeWarner digital with unlimited local + unlimited ld) works during power outage, as does my DSL. I do have a car jumpstart kit with a 12V DC outlet and AC inverter which keeps my DSL modem and router up for hours. Laptop will run just about as long.


DrewCapu
Giant Diehard

join:2001-12-19
California
clubs:
Exactly why I still keep POTS

During an emergency there's a better chance POTS will still be up.

NGOwner

join:2000-11-21
Leawood, KS

reply to michaelk
Re: Time Warner Digital Phone

We recently had a power outage in my neighborhood.

About 45 - 60 minutes. I've got RR and Lingo. Cable modem and gizmo on a homebuilt UPS (2 marine batteries and an inverter/charger). The UPS also powers my sump pump.

No problems. Maintained sync and dial tone throughout.

[NG]Owner
--
It is impossible to create an idiot-proof product. Humanity is simply too adept at churning out better idiots.

darren3179

join:2001-12-14
Carrollton, TX
·PHONE POWER

network backup

VoIP still not a real viable option for people who really depend on the landline. I work for a cable company and we use voiceports to provide phone which are backed up from our network. Thats the main reason we loose very few customers to Time Warner and Comcast VoIP.


Bobcat
Premium
join:2001-02-04
Bedminster, NJ
12 hours?

Fios users have similar concerns, as the Fios backup battery lasts about 10-12 hours.
12 hours is pretty good. The last time I checked, Cablevision's batteries in my area lasted less than 1 hour.


Hall
Premium,MVM
join:2000-04-28
Dayton, OH
·EarthLink
·AT&T Midwest
·Earthlink Cable Mo..

reply to michaelk
Re: Time Warner Digital Phone

I thought their network was supposed to have battery backup too. Admittedly, what is the point though ?? For 95% of people with cable tv, digital phone, or RR, most do NOT have battery backups. Your computer won't work, nor will your TV.

You might want to call them about that. It will be hard to explain to the 1st level people you talk to though...

RadioDoc
58ef2c0
Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11
·AT&T Midwest

reply to kdandaoc
Re: Geez....

The bigger issue is lack of maintenance to all of those pole and pedestal mounted power supplies. Around here it's not uncommon to see the doors flapping in the wind and the batteries hanging out, restrained only by their connecting wires.

And any ComEd glitch takes the cable system out for an hour or more, probably due to said non-maintained power supplies.

But people are sheeple and chase the "savings" ghosts instead of looking for quality service...which is how we get ourselves in so many consumer messes.

Until the cable company can provide better than marginally reliable service in their core product, nobody should expect anything better in their add-ons.
--
Toolmaster of La Grange.

b10010011
Whats a Posting tag?

join:2004-09-07
Bellingham, WA
·Comcast Formerly ..

HA HA Get a real phone

If you want your phone to work during emergencies or long term power outages then you need POTS.

Don't count on your cellphone to bail you out. Last time there was an actual emergency in our town all the cellphones were jammed. They were even begging people on the radio to not use their cellphones so the police and fire departments could use them.


PhoenixDown
-- Wants FIOS
Premium
join:2003-06-08
Fresh Meadows, NY
clubs:
reply to michaelk
Re: Time Warner Digital Phone

When we had the big North East blackout, I lost my cable connection and had to resort to my laptop on a dial up connection via a POTS line
--
Mass Transit Sucks!

iotastorm

join:2006-01-24
Florissant, MO

Gets POTS !

In St.Louis, after those really violent storms came thru and left most of without power for 6 Days, We never lost Phone service.
Most of my friends on Cable/VOIP were down after the 24hrs and coming over to my place to use my phone.
Battery back-ups mounted on the poles for cable are only meant to keep up the system up for about 24 hours, not long extended outages.


boogi man

join:2001-11-13
Apo, AE
clubs:
batteries

few years back we had a city wide+ blackout and i saw 3-4 comcast guys running small gensets into the pedistal boxes to keep things going. seemed like that was better than an f-u

lew_jean

join:2005-05-13
Marietta, GA
reply to b10010011
Re: HA HA Get a real phone

A lot of the cable head ends are backed up by a UPS system and gen,I will still keep my DSL and POTS line, down 4 times in 4.5 years max down time 1hr (DSLAM problem) and I run 6.2M down 485 up

bogey780

join:2004-03-19
Here
reply to iotastorm
Re: Gets POTS !

If it lasted 24 hours then your cable system has good maintenance. Most MOS are lucky if they get 3-4 hours.
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