Rob
In Deo speramus, God Bless the USA
Premium
join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL
 ·Comcast
| Doesn't matter to me...
Doesn't matter to me how they give me my connection. All I ask for is:
* Speeds that are competitively set with other providers in my area as well as meeting or exceeding the average tier plans in the country.
* Priced reasonably with the option to downgrade my service speed (AND PRICE) and upgrade my service speed (AND PRICE).
* Stable and reliable. I understand that my service can be interrupted and sometimes events outside of the control of the provider will hinder my service, but, like my telephone service, I except a stable and reliable service where my uptime exceeds my downtown by no less than 99%. This includes reasonable ping times.
Too much to ask? |
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ropeguru
Premium
join:2001-01-25
Bridgeport, WV
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 ·VOIPo
| said by Rob  :Too much to ask? Looking at the choices today?? Apparently so... 
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LeftOfSanity
join:2005-11-06
Felton, DE | reply to Rob
Too much to ask?
ummm...at this point yea. T-1 lines come with SLA's that gaurantee 99.999% uptime. Look how much they cost...and they ain't fast. Symmetrical yes, fast, no |
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Rob
In Deo speramus, God Bless the USA
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join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL | My DSL service by BellSouth provides me with pretty much 99% uptime. If BellSouth can do, why can't everyone else? |
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Rob
In Deo speramus, God Bless the USA
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join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL | reply to Rob
Can't edit my post, so please exchange 'except' with 'expect' and 'downtown' with 'downtime' |
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| It costs the same in the long run.....
Look at this statement:
quote:
Standing directly in the shadow of Fios deployment, Cablevision is competing rather cheaply at the moment, on last estimate spending $715 to pass and serve a home to Verizon's $1,800. Of course they have much more infrastructure already in place, and therefore can more slowly nudge fiber towards the customer.
Cable companies can take advantage of the situation and compete with FTTH because they are a lot younger and, in some areas, did deploy fiber. Now, they have to take it a bit further and then they can compete with FIOS and other FTTH services.
Of course, they could take a wait and see attitude (which some cable people claim the bells do) and wait to be passed by those same telcos. Either way, fiber looks like the future and both sides need to get working on it now or face the consequences. |
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UnderTater
@comcast.net | Cable Is Laughing at Verizon
...Meanwhile,Verizon spends BIG money rolling out fiber to potential customers. Cable wins in the end! Verizon can rest in peace after the likes of Comcast buries them! |
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Subaru
1-3-2-4
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join:2001-05-31
Greenwich, CT
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·Packet8
| said by UnderTater :
...Meanwhile,Verizon spends BIG money rolling out fiber to potential customers. Cable wins in the end! Verizon can rest in peace after the likes of Comcast buries them!
Figures it comes from a Comcast Tech. |
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
·North State Commun..
| reply to Rob
Re: Doesn't matter to me...
said by Rob :My DSL service by BellSouth provides me with pretty much 99% uptime. If BellSouth can do, why can't everyone else? Bellsouth provided me with 99% downtime. Well, not 99%, but every time it would storm it would go out throughout the storm, every couple of minutes.
Back to Cable and it's rock solid.
It's largely dependent on your area.
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to UnderTater
Re: Cable Is Laughing at Verizon
said by UnderTater :
...Meanwhile,Verizon spends BIG money rolling out fiber to potential customers. Cable wins in the end! Verizon can rest in peace after the likes of Comcast buries them!
Really? Tell me why cable in my area is crying because of all the FIOS installations going on.
Laugh all you want there cable boy but FIOS is giving you guys a run for the money and they have a lot more to burn than you do.  |
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batterup
I Can Not Tell A Lie.
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join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ
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·Verizon Online DSL
| Look at FIOS then dicide
Verizon's FIOS is not a blockbuster hit. Only 15% that have had it available for a year or more sign up and that is in areas where TV can be provided with FIOS.
If Broadband Reports readers and posters would get out in the real world they will find fiber to the premise is a big HUH among the great unwashed. |
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calvoiper
join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA
| Fiber may be the answer, but must it go all the way?
Fiber is clearly the leader in capacity today, but what about a hybrid technology which uses Fiber to the Pole (FTTPol?) and then dispenses with the expensive "drop" to the home by using 802.11g Wi-Fi or something similar--perhaps a regulated band that would avoid interference concerns?
With just a bit of current carrying cable included with the fiber, you could centralize the power source for the wireless APs to greater or lesser degrees, avoiding the "millions of batteries" problems mentioned elsewhere.
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XBL2009
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join:2001-01-03
Chicago, IL
·AT&T Midwest
| reply to UnderTater
Re: Cable Is Laughing at Verizon
said by UnderTater :
...Meanwhile,Verizon spends BIG money rolling out fiber to potential customers. Cable wins in the end! Verizon can rest in peace after the likes of Comcast buries them!
I'd rather have Fios.
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TKJunkMail
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·Comcast
|  Excellent analysis of fiber situation
Karl and I very infrequently see eye to eye. But in this case, his summary of the fiber situation as it applies to telco/cable competition is right on target:
While fiber is the answer, sluggish upgrades by most other telcos and more existing infrastructure means the cable industry has ample time to develop and deploy DOCSIS 3.0.
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Cjaiceman
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join:2004-10-12
Parker, CO
·Comcast Workplace
·Comcast
| reply to moonpuppy
Re: Cable Is Laughing at Verizon
I think FiOS is going to be a major threat to the cable companies. They can deliver more video (at higher quality) to homes than cable can. They can also offer more speed on the Internet. I can only see a couple of downsides to fiber, one the ONT and battery backup needs a location in the home. Two is the company needs to run it to the home making the investment expensive. I think if the companies could lower the cost of deployment without sacrificing quality of the install there would be more fiber being run.
Personaly I think that Denver is going to be waiting A LONG TIME before we see fiber. Comcast is the fastest thing around. (I know, qwest is deploying fiber, but to a VERY LIMITED area). |
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RadioDoc
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join:2000-05-11
·AT&T Midwest
| reply to UnderTater
And where is the money to extend cable FTTH going to come from, eh cablefanboi? Playing catch-up does not increase revenues.
Verizon will be done and reaping the benefits of a state of the art network. Your Comcast systems will be at least 10 years behind and spending $Billions to do what they should have done in the 1990s.
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Subaru
1-3-2-4
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join:2001-05-31
Greenwich, CT
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·Packet8
| said by RadioDoc :Verizon will be done and reaping the benefits of a state of the art network. Your Comcast systems will be at least 10 years behind and spending $Billions to do what they should have done in the 1990s. And remember when Verizon was putting the Fios Door Hangers up Comcast came behind them and removed them?
How sad. |
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Persona
Premium
join:2004-07-07
Gravenhurst, ON | reply to calvoiper
Re: Fiber may be the answer, but must it go all the way?
Even to the node would be a start. |
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JamesPC
join:2005-10-12
Orange, CA
| DSL sucks!
DSL SUCKS! I had that shit through SBC and after restarting my router every couple times a day, I went to road runner. That was a great decision, I have had it for 5 years now and I have only had two different IP address. ATT now, always over sales on there weak network. |
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Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
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join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ | reply to UnderTater
Re: Cable Is Laughing at Verizon
the difference is verizon needs FiOS more then cable needs FTTH because Coax by nature has more room for growth then the anciant copper pair POTs lines.
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