apollo80
join:2002-01-31
Richmond, VA
| Thought better of Verizon until now...
I actually thought better of Verizon until this. I remember my father's business getting a letter two years ago saying that DSL prices were going to be LOWERED, or he could pay the same existing rate for double the DSL speed...his choice. (He had 768/128 and was going to be offered 1500/384 at the same price, or his price was lowered to a new lower tier).
That was the only time I ever saw a price reduction letter from anyone.
Now they're scamming to make a couple extra bucks per account and trying to be slick about it.
I have a DSL line through them and I am not happy...or fooled. |
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kdandaoc
join:2003-10-13
608052427 | question...
Do all of the telcos get to dump the fusf fee?
Am I soon to see this bogus (yet predictible) fee from ATT? |
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FiL
Premium
join:2005-08-16
Silver Spring, MD
| reply to apollo80
Re: Thought better of Verizon until now...
you mean Verzion is just like every other company out to make money?!
LOL@ still charging customers fees with no actual fee to pay.
Why must these conglomerates by so damn shiesty?
keep it real, just bill me with the real deal:
"Were charging you whatever the hell we want, iight?!"
I think thats what their really trying to tell me...
Or how bout:
"Were going to charge you a fee that really doesnt exist. This way, we look legit and instead of you hating us, we'll "wag the dog" and create a target for you to better center your crosshairs on and make you believe "companies are trying to milk good ole Verizon."
Im here waiting on the Verizon fanboys to cry foul. But hey, come to Montgomery County, MD, and see for yaself why this company isnt what you make out it to be.  |
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FiL
Premium
join:2005-08-16
Silver Spring, MD
| reply to kdandaoc
Re: question...
trendsetters like Verizon qualify these fee's as LEGIT BUSINESS.
I just dont think these companies have the capacity to see what their doing is wrong and bending (figure-fouring) the rules. They see it as "business as usual".
"For any normal business, if your basic costs go up, you simply increase the prices you charge. You don't add in some random meaningless and totally unexplained "fee" to cover those costs. Unless, of course, you're trying to pretend you keep lowering prices so that you can claim to lawmakers that there really is competition in a market where there is very little."
I must say the news submitter has a keen eye for powerful quotes.
This quote speaks volumes!
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
Premium
join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
 ·Comcast
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Re: Thought better of Verizon until now...
I agree that Verizon is off base here. Creating a bogus made up fee instead of just raising their rates is deceptive. I am for free market, unregulated businesses and Verizon should be able to raise rates as they see fit. But they shouldn't try to hide an increase in a line item that is not tied to some government mandated tax like they imply by the name they chose.
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JohnA
Premium
join:2003-09-16
Pittsburgh, PA
| Charging the wrong people
It was obvious when Verizon started doing Simulated Dry Loop DSL, that they had costed it wrong. It should be in the $12 range, not $5 higher than standard DSL with phone, due to the line cost.
The answer no one is getting from them, is why not raise the Dry DSL price to where it belongs, rather than spread it across all DSL users. The people with POTS lines + DSL are already paying for a phone line. Why penalize them with costs associated with DSL for people with no phone service? |
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liolo
@optonline.net | is FIOS getting hit with same fee? |
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DslTrblShoot
join:2004-09-23 | reply to kdandaoc
Re: question...
As of now the FUSF is dead. It wont appear anymore, and currently there is no mention of SBC/ATT charging the fee in any other form. It is simply just gone off the bill as of 8/14/06... |
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ITGuy72
Permanently Disco
Premium
join:2001-11-01
New York | The sad thing is..
..unless this gets a massive amount of media coverage hardly anyone will even notice the change. Very sneaky on VZ's part in my opinion. |
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bhan261
join:2001-02-12
New York, NY
| Speakeasy is doing it too...
...eliminating what they used to call "taxes" and now simply call "regulatory compliance fees". I guess they haven't attracted the public outcry due to their relatively small size. But it's still just so much crap.
I'm thinking about increasing the prices at my business by adding the "photocopier recovery fee" and the "coffee machine recovery fee". |
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God
IN Vilseck Germany
Premium
join:2002-07-01
Colorado Springs, CO
clubs: 
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just a way to increase their bottom line without having everyone run for the hills. Verizon doesnt have the balls to say that they increased the price but say that it is some fee .....
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mikesco
join:2006-02-17
South Hadley, MA
| reply to apollo80
Re: Thought better of Verizon until now...
Not sure if it will do much good, but I filed a complaint with the FTC in regard to this below the line bait and switch pricing tactic. Perhaps if enough people complain it will force them to take some action or send a reccomendation to congress for a law change. Verizon has every right to raise thier prices, but it should be reflected in thier advertised price to allow consumers a fair comparison with the competition. Same goes for all others who use this below the belt tactic, |
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FiL
Premium
join:2005-08-16
Silver Spring, MD
| reply to God
Re: =\
my thoughts exactly. No balls. Or atleast small ones. Like last nights episode of South Park; theyve got Osama Bin Laden sized balls.
Just tell it how it is. I wonder if Verizon ever thought of ad campaign like that.
My what a breath of fresh air that would be. Exact figures on all commercials. Exact figures on REAL WORLD SPEED TESTS, not what your line can do in burst or 100% ideal situations.
We want real.
We dont want theives in the night doing fly by's in the day. |
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justbits
More fiber than ATT can handle
Premium
join:2003-01-08
Chicago, IL
 ·AT&T Midwest
| Verizon Introduces New Charge-You-At-Whim Plan
"Verizon Communications, Inc. announced a new service package for its wireless and residential customers that would charge them widely varying, but always high, fees every month depending how the communications giant feels at the time."
»www.theonion.com/content/node/51834
Gotta love The Onion!
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wwdubbia
join:2002-06-03
Clinton, NY
| reply to ITGuy72
Re: The sad thing is..
said by ITGuy72  :..unless this gets a massive amount of media coverage hardly anyone will even notice the change. Very sneaky on VZ's part in my opinion. I just posted this on digg.com, so maybe it'll get some legs...
digg it if you want to fight the man...
»digg.com/tech_news/Verizon_Tries···_DSL_Fee |
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madrhino
join:2004-07-03
 ·Verizon FIOS
| Verizon may cause AIDS&Cancer but it's OK they have FIOS
I have seen people berated mercilessly in these forums for questions that were not ,shall we say,overwhelmingly pro-Verizon.
There is a scary amount of people that think FIOS is so important,so necessary and so revolutionary that Verizon should be allowed to do whatever they want without any question or restrictions,just because they have the fastest internet speeds.
We have already seen how Verizon treats it's customers, local government,the federal government,the competiton,small babies,etc,.
To allow them to proceed towards their goal of monopoly is madness.Their almost intolerably duplicitous behavior is almost sure to get worse,if that is actually possible.
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Titus Pullo
I came, I saw, I slept
join:2004-06-26 | Why does Verizon Hate America?
I'll bet their CEO doesn't have a Jesus Fish on his bumper
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast
| reply to madrhino
Re: Verizon may cause AIDS&Cancer but it's OK they have FIOS
Verizon is a joke!
Never wanted their services, never will! It's Verizon!
SureWest, ok!
Paxio, hell yes!
??? Fiber ISP, perhaps.
Verizon, Hell No!
Some of us have standards/values.
YMMV.
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God
IN Vilseck Germany
Premium
join:2002-07-01
Colorado Springs, CO
clubs:
| reply to FiL
Re: =\
said by FiL :my thoughts exactly. No balls. Or atleast small ones. Like last nights episode of South Park; theyve got Osama Bin Laden sized balls. Just tell it how it is. I wonder if Verizon ever thought of ad campaign like that. My what a breath of fresh air that would be. Exact figures on all commercials. Exact figures on REAL WORLD SPEED TESTS, not what your line can do in burst or 100% ideal situations. We want real. We dont want theives in the night doing fly by's in the day. a world where unlimited is actually unlimited .......
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FiL
Premium
join:2005-08-16
Silver Spring, MD | reply to Titus Pullo
Re: Why does Verizon Hate America?
"Some of us have standards/values."
Ouch. Thats NOT what Verizon wants to hear, friend.
But I Do!
Dont got the Jesus Fish but I got some orange fish crackers. |
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