Mr Anon
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I was about to say the Pron stuff was a bit over but then I though that if its govermentially funded then they have to do that for children at least I think, and with the nature of the network less you can garuntee that they aren't kids you have to filter everyone...
Still, boo!
P2P is another animal and I can understand even if personally I'd dislike it. |
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John Galt
Forward, March
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Happy Camp | No Free Speech on Free Wi-Fi
I guess...!
I bet this plays out in the courts.
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JSRoman
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Callahan, FL | Users can't complain
It is free, if you want to get your psp or porn fix I guess go elsewhere.
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hopeflicker
Capitalism breeds greed
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Long Beach, CA | who get's their warez/porn downloads from wifi anywayz? |
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viperlmw
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| said by hopeflicker  :who get's their warez/porn downloads from wifi anywayz? Freeloaders. |
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calvoiper
join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA
| reply to John Galt
Re: No Free Speech on Free Wi-Fi
This will play out in the courts. Government entities have considerably less leeway in filtering content than a private ISP would have.
This will probably prove to be a weapon for the "bad guys" in two respects:
First, those opposing muni WiFi will use the ensuing court battles as a reason for cities not to deploy muni WiFi.
Second, those opposing net neutrality will say that they type of "moral" filtering being done here would not be allowable if a net neutrality provision were in place, so we shouldn't have net neutrality.
Both arguments are seriously flawed, but will be used against the forces of reason anyway.
calvoiper
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anonpronman
@snet.net | The internet was made for Porn
Subject sayd it all! |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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Mount Airy, MD | Wow...
So those taxpayers not only have to pay for a crippled network, they also have to pay for content filtering software. What a crock of BS.
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Kearnstd
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Mullica Hill, NJ
| reply to John Galt
Re: No Free Speech on Free Wi-Fi
filtering the porn could see a court case but preventing P2P cannot be dragged into court. simply because they could claim they are preventing network saturation caused by p2p.
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iwonder
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Re: Users can't complain
Would be an interesting test too see how effective Audible Magic is at dealing with the encryption built into Azureus or uTorrent.
Also would be nice to test downloading legal shows like Diggnation, Systm, or TWIT to make sure they are working fine. If not a few hundred calls to tech support may be in order for their "broken" filtering.
Wonder how Audible Magic would deal with traffic encapsulated in SSH or VPN. Wish I lived there so could try to "test" it. I’d bet less that 1 day for workarounds to arise. |
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Toadman
How do you like these Apples
join:2001-11-28
Medina, OH
| reply to JSRoman
said by JSRoman :It is free, if you want to get your psp or porn fix I guess go elsewhere. Yeah, like looking into your neighbors window. I do believe LA is where most of the Porno's are taped anyway.
My 2nd thought - A bum would have to have a computer to download the stuff off of the wifi network, the library gives it out for free already, not much has changed. |
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ptrowski
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Putnam, CT
clubs: | Waahhh...
It's free! It amazes me that people can complain about something being free... |
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pb5k
more cowbell
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Glendale, AZ
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| reply to pnh102
Re: Wow...
I agree, though maybe it's cheaper to filter the content than to face RIAA/MPAA copyright infringement lawsuits, not to mention lawsuits from those parents who think their kids have been 'harmed' by nipples...though I admit I'm probably not qualified to do a cost/benefit analysis on this one. 
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read the headline
@67.98.x.x | reply to ptrowski
Re: Waahhh...
Because it is not "free". LA Muni WIFI. Taxpayers ultimatley pay for it. If I were a taxpayer to LA Muni and they are wasting my taxpayer $$ on private business intrests above FREEDOM I would be irked. |
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bamabrad
join:2006-01-27
Port Orange, FL | Nothing is free-
Somebody has to pay-and the ones paying for it,or their delegated authorities,say no to these particular things-I see no problem. |
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pb5k
more cowbell
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Glendale, AZ | reply to ptrowski
Re: Waahhh...
Waiter: Here's some free spaghetti
Patron: But it's got S*** on it!
Waiter: Whiner |
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
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Hercules, CA
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| reply to hopeflicker
Re: Users can't complain
said by hopeflicker :who get's their warez/porn downloads from wifi anywayz? Wireless laptop, hello!
Bet I could get pr0n across that wifi! 
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OceanaJones
join:2004-10-18
Suffolk, VA
| Big Brother
Always be wary of a government that offers anything for "free". It's the government's way to force control over a people. It should be rejected. Nothing in the government is ever "free"... nothing. People win their freedom from oppression and control, but government takes that freedom away or severely limits it. |
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hopeflicker
Capitalism breeds greed
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Long Beach, CA | reply to dadkins
Re: Users can't complain
nothing like watching your hi-rez porn video and having a flakey wifi connection. 
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calvoiper
join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA
| reply to Kearnstd
Re: No Free Speech on Free Wi-Fi
If they do it correctly, just throttling bandwidth without regard to application, they are probably on solid legal ground. If they single out one application or protocol, the case becomes much less defensible.
The legally acceptable solution has to be tailored to the problem--be it bandwidth consumption or whatever.
calvoiper
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