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Comments on news posted 2006-08-28 16:28:45: Infoworld proclaims that Atheros has developed a new chipset and networking processor that should lead to 802.11n draft Wi-Fi gear that costs less than $100. While that speed and cost is nice, many experts still advise waiting for the final 802. ..


hayabusa3303
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priceless

Going to be funny if they change the draft and the stuff they are making today cant work for the final draft

Router $120
Network cards $160
Mutlitmedia player $320

Draft changes and firmware doesnt work PRICELESS.

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Re: priceless

said by hayabusa3303:

Going to be funny if they change the draft and the stuff they are making today cant work for the final draft

Router $120
Network cards $160
Mutlitmedia player $320

Draft changes and firmware doesnt work PRICELESS.
...For everything else there's "Ethernet!"

Don't get me wrong... I have tried 802.11b and have lurked on the wireless forums(b,a,g,n...), but this is getting out of hand... It seems many entities/companies are trying to improve on a great idea. Throw in all the variations of standards and you have a "cluster-hump" in the making... I can't qualify my post; just throwing it out there-not as a troll, though...
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wilburyan

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Who cares?

for 98% of home users that purchase a wireless router... they are doing so to distribute an internet connection throughout there home... that's it.

802.11a and g provide far more bandwidth than the connection they are sharing.

The only situation where 802.11n gear would come in handy is in a business LAN setting where increased bandwidth is important.

gjrhine

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Re: Who cares?

Most people are looking for more range (which n provides) in the home, not speed.
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Re: Who cares?

For just how big of a house?
I can hook up to my B router from down my block. What would be helpful ( but doubtful) is to be able to knock the structural interference betwtween tha floors that that my 3 story brick house has.

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You pretty much answered your own question. You can connect from down the block but not from places in your own house. Everyone's circumstances are different and there are plenty of people looking for the better range that N provides as reported by Walt Mossberg last week.
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wilburyan

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Re: Who cares?

In that specific case, better speeds can be achieved by better antenna placement and possibly better antennas.

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said by wilburyan:

for 98% of home users that purchase a wireless router... they are doing so to distribute an internet connection throughout there home... that's it.

802.11a and g provide far more bandwidth than the connection they are sharing.

The only situation where 802.11n gear would come in handy is in a business LAN setting where increased bandwidth is important.
When I went 802.11b, I did the math and determined it worked out just right in terms of "Router Speed" versus "Number of Clients/Needs of such" versus DSL D/U "Bandwidth..."

Most consumers do not look at the ramifications/needs of their home network... They look at the numbers fed to them by the marketing pimps...

Thinking "more is better," "sheeple" will pay premium prices for equipment boasting higher numbers which might be more than they need for their configuration. This is not to say that businesses cannot and do not benefit from the various flavors of Wi-Fi.

I suspect there are a good number of experimenters who are posting here at BBR and have attained some real solid numbers in terms of range versus power out versus security schemes; some of them may even be closet hams.

"And the Beat Goes On..."

Cheers, all.
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pnh102
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De Facto Standard

If many people buy these things, and more pre-N wireless equipment made by different companies happens to work together well, then this equipment may bring about a new "standard" based on the sheer size of the installed user base which could make the "actual" 802.11n standard irrelevant.
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kcir

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no rush

Happily running b/g 95% of the time. When I need more speed, connect up a wire (1gig). Right now, think I'll pass this by and wait for 802.11x

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Re: no rush

said by kcir:

Happily running b/g 95% of the time. When I need more speed, connect up a wire (1gig). Right now, think I'll pass this by and wait for 802.11x
i still run 11b, so no worries from me ....
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Re: no rush

said by God:

said by kcir:

Happily running b/g 95% of the time. When I need more speed, connect up a wire (1gig). Right now, think I'll pass this by and wait for 802.11x
i still run 11b, so no worries from me ....
I have a b/g wireless router left open to passersby, with no takers... Hmmm... No encryption, firewall in place(File/Printer share disabled...)

My log STILL shows no activity after three weeks' time... I think there is no one in my hood that can take advantage of my profound wireless internet generosity... Yeah, I know; I'm a real freakin' humanitarian...

I'm refering back to another thread, can't remember which, and I'm too lazy/drunk/not caring enough...

I must be the richest man in the hood.

Cheers.
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insomniac84

join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN

Price will drop as the final draft gets closer

It has nothing to do with making the hardware cheaper, it's all about tyring to sell as many of this pre draft crap as possible knowing anyone that buys it will probably have to buy a new one when the it's finalized.
expert007

join:2006-01-10
Buffalo, NY

802.11n Real World Range

I've heard 'range increases', but how much real world range is expected or seen so far from .11n?

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Re: 802.11n Real World Range

3x or more what you are seeing with 11b/g if I recall...but the most signif aspect of the improvement is not the "line of sight" distance improvement...it's the "through the obstruction" improvement.

For example, try to get a WiFi signal across a yard/neighborhood/park dense with trees.

Make no mistake about it...there are plenty of home users that will welcome .11n

Not to mention the Muni-WiFi and Campus-WiFi project advantages it will bring. There would be a whole lot less units & repeaters that would have to go up to cover the desired areas.

So when those areas dictate .11n then suddenly the average user will have even more incentive to go to .11n for compatibility.

Of course WiMax may change that whole picture in not too long.

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