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Comments on news posted 2006-08-31 10:40:35: Dark Reading has more detail on a new law in California that tries to tackle Wi-Fi Freeloading and unsecured wireless routers. ..

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53059959
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Your connection has been TERMINATED


pnh102
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Useless as "Chemicals Known to the State of CA" Stickers

Heh... every time I am in CA I see these stickers that say something like "Chemicals known to the State of California are in this and they will cause cancer and kill you." This approach reminds me of that. I am sure just like the cancer stickers, this new sticker will be equally useless
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ossito16

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Receiving transmissions

Is there not a federal law that says citizens are allowed to receive any transmission. I have heard this argument be used in stated where radar detectors are illegal. People would try and use the fed law to get around state laws. If that is true then I can receive any wifi I want as long as I don't crack or decrypt.

kc5fog

join:2005-09-09
Hitchcock, TX

reply to pnh102
Re: Useless as "Chemicals Known to the State of CA" Stickers

More government bull crap to try and protect stupid people from themselves. Its due to this kind of mentality that we have more and more stupid people. We have put government fail-safes in place that have circumvented Darwin's selective evolution process. Whats the old saying, make something idiot proof and the government will build a better idiot


N3OGH
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reply to ossito16
Re: Receiving transmissions

said by ossito16 See Profile :

Is there not a federal law that says citizens are allowed to receive any transmission.
I'm pretty sure it's against Federal law to listen to listen to cell phone conversations, so that would put a hole in the "allowed to receive any transmission" theory.
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R4M0N
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It's this type of law

Along with extremely liberal judges, that have contributed to this lawsuit-happy society we have today. You put stickers telling people the most stupidly common-sensical things and they become dependent on the government to tell them what's good or bad. Then they sue when the hot coffe burns them because there wasn't a label saying hot things burn.

Next thing you know, someone will sue because the wireless router didn't have a label saying their radio signal can be picked up by the neighbor's antenna too.


dadkins
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99%...

... of the people leeching couldn't care less about what the owner's computer has on it or what it is doing.

*MOST* are just looking for a free ride to IM, check email, surf porn, whatever.

If I were to open up my router, you'd have to work pretty hard to get in my laptops, but you could go hit MySpace with ease.
I'm paying for my bandwidth, I want all of it for me!
This is why I have taken a few SIMPLE steps to more or less ensure the casual wardriver cannot connect.

No offense, but f*** a sticker! LOL!
Maybe if they apply the sticker over the power plug or a WAN port it would catch a few people's attention... MAYBE!
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California Knows What is Good for You -- Right

As it has been shown that stress causes heart attack and it also has been shown that California can cause it's citizens stress then it is only appropriate that a warning label be applied to all laws, speeches and other crap from California stating that it can cause stress and should be controlled.

WARNING: IT IS KNOWN IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA THAT THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA CAN CAUSE HARM AND DEATH DUE TO THE STRESS THAT IT CREATES FOR IT'S CITIZENS AND THOSE OF THE OTHER 49 STATES. IGNORE AND AVOID.


winky
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reply to dadkins
Re: 99%...

Excellent idea; "..apply the sticker over the power plug or a WAN port.." But it certainly begs the question the consumer is likely to ask, What's a WAN Port?
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Anomus

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Ive been cantennaing off of 3 neighbors routers all year now. I get 30gigs a day of movie goodness including all of schawtzies T flicks. Its great. I have over 9300 movie files and 6500 Tv episodes. I ran out of drive letters so I have multiple pc's storing what I collectively call mini block buster video. 29.95/month is a pittance for my own access but I mooch for solely one reason. Deep pocket bastards are filing extortion lawsuits perverting the system with no intention of actually going to court. Fine, I dont have a conscience either so I respond by perverting the equipment use to evade their detection. They may catch the neighbors but na na na na na, they'll never catch me. And extorting innocent neighbors will be more bad press for them as I continue to help keep P2P strong and proud.


dadkins
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reply to winky
Re: 99%...

If they are conecting a router to a modem... they'll figure out what a WAN port is pretty quick.
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knightmb
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reply to N3OGH
Re: Receiving transmissions

said by N3OGH See Profile :

said by ossito16 See Profile :

Is there not a federal law that says citizens are allowed to receive any transmission.
I'm pretty sure it's against Federal law to listen to listen to cell phone conversations, so that would put a hole in the "allowed to receive any transmission" theory.
It's not illegal to listen to cell phones, only to record them for anything but personal use. If I record your cell phone conversation and then through it up on youtube then I'm in trouble. If I record your cell phone conversation for a personal chuckle at home, well then I'm just a strange person.

kd6cae
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why the fuss over free wifi?

If all a user connecting wirelessly wants is quick easy internet access, then what's the big deal, and why is everyone suddenly complaining about open wifi? If I ever get my own wireless setup, I'll gladly make it publicly available to anyone in range, even going so far as to put up an outside antenna for maximum range. any wireless user wishing to connect to my network is more than welcome to do so, regardless of whether they want to surf the web, or browse my network and enjoy the over 70 gigabytes of audio/video content I purposely share over my network. So because I would run a completely open wifi connection, am I now some sort of horrible person? It makes no sense. as long as the persons connecting are browsing the web or the local network, then who cares if the wifi is open? Why can't we just enjoy the technology we have instead of always complaining about it?


bigunk
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reply to dadkins
Re: 99%...

Not as fast as you might like to think. I build and service networks all the time. A lot of people out there don't know the difference between a hole on the router and the hole in their nether regions.
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Im with ya

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reply to kd6cae
Re: why the fuss over free wifi?

I'm with you.

Keeping an open connection is the friendly, neighborly thing to do.


verolom

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reply to kd6cae
Because there are terrible people out there wishing to eat your lunch.


GilbertMark
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hmm

As long as they're gonna put stickers on routers, how about stickers on computers with Windows pre-installed saying "Get a brain before using"?


dadkins
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reply to bigunk
Re: 99%...

said by bigunk See Profile :

Not as fast as you might like to think. I build and service networks all the time. A lot of people out there don't know the difference between a hole on the router and the hole in their nether regions.
Right! YOU are doing it... if THEY go buy a router and do it themselves, they just might have to RTFM.
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dadkins
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reply to GilbertMark
Re: hmm

What does Windows have to do with this?
Macs can get fried just as bad as a Windows machine by clueless wonder...
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