BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Slow and gooey internet
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RayW
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join:2001-09-01
Layton, UT
clubs:
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| Will Vista stall Net traffic?
Vista may cause an increase in DNS traffic, but not to the extent predicted by Mockapetris, Microsoft countered in a statement provided to CNET News.com last week. Someone save this quote, it will be interesting to see what happens next year. After all, despite hearing the 64K memory statement since around 1985 and now having it now said it never happened  ........
and if Vista was all of a sudden deployed everywhere, This is the statement that may make the slowdown not true. I am not converting until I have to, and I know a lot of others that will not. (well, I do have a co-worker who has alpha and beta'ed it since the day it was still a dog, he SAYS he likes it now.)
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Jodokast96
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join:2005-11-23
Erial, NJ
·Verizon Online DSL
| said by RayW  :I am not converting until I have to, and I know a lot of others that will not. I just converted my last machine over from 98SE within the last few months. As it is, I only use 2k now. I don't plan on going anywhere anytime soon. |
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RayW
Premium
join:2001-09-01
Layton, UT
clubs:
·XMission
| 98se, 2K, and xpPro at home. The Linux machine died and I have too many microsoft only programs that have to run  .
On the work front, we are being forced to upgrade our 2K laptops (and all other Intel systems I am told) at work (US government) to XP. Kind of stupid, 400 MHz processors with 128 Meg of memory running XP?
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Sabre
Di relung hatiku bernyanyi bidadari
join:2005-05-17
 ·Comcast
| said by RayW :On the work front, we are being forced to upgrade our 2K laptops (and all other Intel systems I am told) at work (US government) to XP. Kind of stupid, 400 MHz processors with 128 Meg of memory running XP? Been there. Still have several at work. On 4GB hard drives. They run. (Strictly speaking, they run. Very poorly.)
I've had XP for less than a year, and I have too many other drains on my resources right now to upgrade to Vista. I think that's one of the major reasons this stalling claim is overblown. There won't be much at first, and perhaps it will push those who need to upgrade backends to do it.
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roady1
join:2003-11-13
Cleveland, OH | Stop yer whinin...
Old laptops like that run just fine if you learn to tweak the startup and graphics processing...I'm on XP on a Celeron 300 w/90 mb of ram. Unless you NEED quicktime, shockwave, and flash for work, it does what it's supposed to. |
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RayW
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join:2001-09-01
Layton, UT
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| said by roady1 :Old laptops like that run just fine if you learn to tweak the startup and graphics processing...I'm on XP on a Celeron 300 w/90 mb of ram. Unless you NEED quicktime, shockwave, and flash for work, it does what it's supposed to. Whining? Look at the bigger picture and dig out your wallet.
XP modified may run just fine, but what is the point in upgrading 500+ stand alone laptops used as test controllers and diagnostic aids from 2K to XP, except to give Gates and company more money/pay back of bribes? 2K worked fine WITHOUT TWEAKING. This is $50000+ (granted, a mere drop in the bucket for the feds) in YOUR tax dollars wasted for no value added (not counting the $100/hour labor rate to do the updates and testing, plus any application changes required).
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
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·Comcast
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Re: Will Vista stall Net traffic?
If there is a slowdown, it is one all the most vociferous internet adherents have been begging for - a switchover to IPV6. So the only issue is will the DNS system be upgraded to handle IPV6 or won't it. This idiot complaining about Vista has targeted the wrong product. The real goal should be to upgrade the ancient DNS systems managed by all the ISPs.
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viperpa33s
Why Me?
Premium
join:2002-12-20
Bradenton, FL
·Bright House
| Will never happen
The RIAA will never learn and never give the music buyer choice. They will continue to sell sub cd quality formats at 99 cents or more, cause they think the music buyer is dumb. Allofmp3 is a site that the RIAA could learn from considerably buy won't. Will also cut down or eliminate sharing considerably.
Giving people choice is not in the RIAA's vocabulary. |
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verolom
join:2002-03-23
Eagleville, PA | Vista clogging the net
Of course it will happen. It already is happening... All these people (including me) downloading beta version now will revert to downloading pirate copies when it comes out  |
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RadioDoc
58ef2c0
Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11
·AT&T Midwest
| reply to TKJunkMail
Re: Will Vista stall Net traffic?
* ding *
But all those limping DNS systems can't be blamed on Microsoft, so there's no rabble-rousing punditry possible. And these guys (past accomplishments, notwithstanding) live by stirring shit at Microsoft's (and other large corporations') expense.
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RadioDoc
58ef2c0
Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11 | reply to viperpa33s
Re: Will never happen
If the RIAA had a brain (yeah I know...keep dreaming) they would buy allofMP3. The infrastructure, customers and revenue stream is right there...
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MooJohn
join:2005-12-18
Milledgeville, GA
·Windstream
| reply to RadioDoc
Re: Will Vista stall Net traffic?
Exactly! Providers have neglected DNS for far too long, upgrading everything else while leaving it on half-ass equipment with marginal speed.
In the 90s, the typical network admin mindset was "how good can I make this network?" while today it's much closer to "how little can we do to just keep it as-is?"
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AB
Premium
join:2006-04-04
Leesburg, VA
| reply to verolom
Re: Vista clogging the net
said by verolom :Of course it will happen. It already is happening... All these people (including me) downloading beta version now will revert to downloading pirate copies when it comes out And why would you (and all these people) do that?
Because you're a jerk, or just a thief? Or both? |
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Fatal Vector
join:2005-11-26
| "And why would you (and all these people) do that?
Because you're a jerk, or just a thief? Or both?"
Then again, to place the shoe on the other foot one could ask you:
Why would you pay for it and enrich Bill Gates? Considering that XP is fine for most users now and the only real reason Microsoft has for releasing a new OS of any kind is because their revenue stream is getting stale because XP has been well adopted by now.
Never mind that Vista is sure to be riddled with flaws and holes, just as every other microsoft OS has been, that you will be patching ad nauseum.
Microsoft should be buisy fortifying XP and improving on it by adding features, etc, instead of following their standard marketing ploy every few years. But then, they've found that the lemmings will run to fall off the cliff, even if their new offering sucks and is full of DRM. |
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AB
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join:2006-04-04
Leesburg, VA
| said by Fatal Vector :"And why would you (and all these people) do that? Because you're a jerk, or just a thief? Or both?" Then again, to place the shoe on the other foot one could ask you: Why would you pay for it and enrich Bill Gates? Because I'm not a thief.
This is the way Capitalism, Consumerism, and the Retail Market system works. A product is offered for sale, I may purchase it or not, at my discretion. The fact that I might consider it to be over-priced is not justification for stealing it. That's justification for not purchasing it (and I have no intention of purchasing or using it, btw).
But then, I am proud to say I have a moral value system.
Something many others apparently do not have. |
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David
No,there is another.
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join:2002-05-30
Granite City, IL
clubs:
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·AT&T Midwest
| reply to Jodokast96
Re: Will Vista stall Net traffic?
said by Jodokast96 :said by RayW :I am not converting until I have to, and I know a lot of others that will not. I just converted my last machine over from 98SE within the last few months. As it is, I only use 2k now. I don't plan on going anywhere anytime soon. You and me both... I have one XP machine in my house, I borrow ed a few things from it to tweak/modify my windows XP machine. Like shutdown.exe and a few other care pkgs. Works wonders..
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redxii
too big to fail
Premium,Mod
join:2001-02-26
Texas | reply to RayW
DNS traffic? How many times does download.windowsvista.com need to be resolved to 70.183.191.81 during a single download? |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| reply to AB
Re: Vista clogging the net
said by AB :said by verolom :Of course it will happen. It already is happening... All these people (including me) downloading beta version now will revert to downloading pirate copies when it comes out And why would you (and all these people) do that? Because you're a jerk, or just a thief? Or both? NOPE!
pirate versions are likely to be modified[DRM removed]
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RayW
Premium
join:2001-09-01
Layton, UT
clubs:
·XMission
| reply to redxii
Re: Will Vista stall Net traffic?
said by redxii :DNS traffic? How many times does download.windowsvista.com need to be resolved to 70.183.191.81 during a single download? Well, the details were not posted as to why the guy said it. Just some hints that it will be more often due to checks for IPv4 and IPv6. Our local beta tester just went "huh?" when I asked about it. I am of the 'time will tell' opinion.
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