rawgerz
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I'm pretty sure I read in a few TOS from different cable CO's that if you do this, you will be permanently disconnected.
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en102
Canadian, eh?
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Valencia, CA
1 edit | or worse... FBI showing up at your door with a warrant due to tampering, end up being hauled away with your possessions seized, and possibly spending some time in prison. |
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justin
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Brooklyn, NY | reply to rawgerz
yes if you read my review I mention that more than once. Nevertheless, the book exists and it is not illegal to purchase it, or read it. |
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TKJunkMail
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said by rawgerz  :I'm pretty sure I read in a few TOS from different cable CO's that if you do this, you will be permanently disconnected. Or worse, they take you to court? Yes, you can find in the Comcast forum a number of posts of those who got caught and then come whine about how the big bad cable company permanently disconnected them from all cable services - including TV.
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Alpine
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Atlanta, GA | Typical
Again theft being justified by "sticking it to the greedy corporations." I hope this guy isn't more than 15 years old... Most of us mature and grow out of that attitude around that point...
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TKJunkMail
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Re: bad idea..
said by justin :yes if you read my review I mention that more than once. Nevertheless, the book exists and it is not illegal to purchase it, or read it. Yes, it is legal and it very similar in ethics to those books on how to make homemade bombs. Perfectly legal and upheld in court numerous times on free speech grounds. But I would hope legitimate companies would refuse to carry and sell these books.
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pb5k
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I believe in some jurisdictions, yes, it could be considered "theft of service" and you could be taken to court for it, though most likely they will simply disconnect someone who uncaps. And as I understand it, the docsis protocol is pretty draconian and uncappers aren't hard to find.
Aside from that, it is the epitome of greed and selfishness. If there were uncappers on every block, service could degrade to less-than-dialup speeds.
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Kearnstd
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doing what the book says can be illegal under theft of service(atleast the uncapping), the Author writing it and us owning and reading the book is thankfully still protected as a freedom of the press.
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LiberalKing
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Bronx, NY | reply to Alpine
Re: Typical
tell me about it. im only for free downloads of warez/mp3/moviez to stick it to the big companies.
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Enlightener
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Cedar Park, TX | Unbelievable
I can't belive BBR would steep to such lows. Is this Slashdot?
Theft of service should never be publically condoned. |
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Bill
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Re: bad idea..
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tiger72
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Why? let the kiddies get permbanned by their ISP. Their parents will definitely appreciate it. |
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frankenfeet
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Re: Unbelievable
BBR isn't condoning it. They're simply stating that there's a book out that shows how it can be done. What if your neighbor was to clone your MAC address. Wouldn't it be nice to know how he did it so you can fix it where he can't do it again? After you beat his ass of course.
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porkchops
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| The Author's Site
TCN-ISO, if anyone is interested.
The site has its own forum, a store, and general cable modem-uncapping miscellanea.
They also have a section on the book, accompanied by a brief summary of each chapter. |
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Nerdtalker
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Re: bad idea..
I still remember that.
The good days of cable modem uncapping are over. Now, pretty much all bandwidth management is done through QoS policies instated at the headend itself, fewer and fewer cable ISPs are using the cable modems to enforce the bandwidth caps because of this specific vulnerability.
As long as the customer has access to the thing, it's vulnerable. QoS policies and headend-based management take those out of the user's hands, completely. Those two essentially render all the old serial-based SurfBoard hacks obsolete. There still are some neat things you can do, but not legally, or without getting caught.
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bmn
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said by TKJunkMail :But I would hope legitimate companies would refuse to carry and sell these books. Based on that logic, if something CAN be used for bad, then companies shouldn't carry it or sell it ?
Just about everything in your home would suddenly be gone from the shelves of every store.
Bleach, gone (because it can be used to make chlorine bombs more easily that you can hack your cable modem)... Guns, gone... Cars, all gone. Computes, poof! Phones, yep, them too. Children's Tylenol, done for...
No, that doesn't work. Instead of preventing this type of information from getting out, perhaps a consorted effort to show its value and explain its legitimate uses should be made ?
And of course, keeping the book from stores doesn't prevent someone with the slightest clue from firing up the internet and using Google.
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dvd536
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said by rawgerz :I'm pretty sure I read in a few TOS from different cable CO's that if you do this, you will be permanently disconnected. Or worse, they take you to court? Remember the buckeye cable incident?
speeds are now up there where uncapping is not worth the hassle.
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bmn
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I agree that most of this book's content is probably not worth the time because using it will get you slapped down, but the sections on accessing the SNMP functions of the modem would certainly make it worthwhile.
When I had cable, I would have loved the ability to use the SNMP functions for several reason, the least of which to let me know when my connection crapped out and I wasn't around to notice. Such information would certainly let me know how reliable my provider is versus what they claim to be. And of course, getting data on the traffic hitting my modem but not my router would be cool.
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CPM
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Miami, FL | 20 megs
I get 20 megs now with OOL. Why would I need to hack it? |
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