tangojoker
Peace
join:2004-01-25
Beaverton, OR | Network Neutrality
Network neutrality at work ? 
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Jodokast96
R.I.P Bassman442
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join:2005-11-23
Erial, NJ | Tubes were clogged
They need to charge Google. |
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Lincoln99
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join:2005-03-24
Pleasant Grove, UT
| Comcast better have one damn good explanation for this
This is very disturbing if those Comcast customers were able to reach other web sites, but not able to reach Google -- especially if customers on other ISP's in the same region were able to reach Google.
Isn't Kevin Martin (Chairman of the FCC) saying network neutrality is a cause looking for a problem? Well Mr. Martin, here is a problem.
Comcast better have one damn good explanation for this. |
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chemaupr
join:2005-06-06
Alexandria, VA | they are just testing  |
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qdemn7
Smurf in My Loop
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join:2003-09-16
Fort Worth, TX
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GilbertMark
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join:2001-05-02
Gilbert, AZ
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Re: Tubes were clogged
said by Jodokast96  :They need to charge Google. Any ISP can charge Google as far as I'm concerned just so long as their service is free to me. They don't get to double dip on this.
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DanHo
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join:2002-05-20
Seattle, WA | If you actually read the threads
It wasn't just comcast users. »[Connectivity] Google blocked or down!?
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hayabusa3303
Over 200 mph
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join:2005-06-29
clubs: | Hummm
Bad router on comcast side some where?
I really dont think that comcast would block just the northeast tho. |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| reply to GilbertMark
Re: Tubes were clogged
said by GilbertMark :said by Jodokast96 :They need to charge Google. Any ISP can charge Google as far as I'm concerned just so long as their service is free to me. They don't get to double dip on this. No such thing as a free lunch. They charge Google. Google raises advetising rates. Those companies rate prices on things YOU buy. So you do in fact pay in the end. Big corporations are NOT going to eat the costs when the little guy can be made to pay for it. Also many currently free Google services may go pay or be bloated with ads. As I said someway some how you will pay if Google has too.
Personally an ISP wanting to charge Google is like the oil companies charging gas stations for selling a bottle of Coke because they supply them with gas. |
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
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3 edits | reply to Lincoln99
Re: Comcast better have one damn good explanation for this
said by Lincoln99 :This is very disturbing if those Comcast customers were able to reach other web sites, but not able to reach Google -- especially if customers on other ISP's in the same region were able to reach Google. Isn't Kevin Martin (Chairman of the FCC) saying network neutrality is a cause looking for a problem? Well Mr. Martin, here is a problem. Comcast better have one damn good explanation for this. Maybe you should wait awhile before jumping to a conclusion without any facts:
»If you actually read the threads
P.S. I experienced no problems today getting to Google GMAIL, Google NEWS, or Google search and I'm on Comcast.
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
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Re: If you actually read the threads
WOW, an island of sanity amongst the alarmists. |
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furlonium
Computer Over? Virus equals Very Yes?
join:2002-05-08
Bethlehem, PA | reply to hayabusa3303
No?
I'm sorry, but why should Google pay Comcast, or any other provider for simply having a service free to anybody? It's not Google's fault Comcast can't handle the traffic. |
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TKJunkMail
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
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| reply to hayabusa3303
Re: Hummm
said by hayabusa3303 :Bad router on comcast side some where? I really dont think that comcast would block just the northeast tho. The Comcast thread on this looks like they think it was a problem with an Abovenet router.
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aj004
join:2006-05-28
Forest Hills, NY
2 edits | cnet says NYC too?
I read that NYC was also affected? Is this true? Wasn't on the internet till recently.
Google is moving to 111 8th avenue and so if one needs google to get out to the bigger internet I would highly recommend using an ISP at this facility if available.
Time Warner Cable is NOT located at this facility from the listing of providers that I see unless someone knows otherwise. For NYC Residential providers the providers who are located would be Verizon AND RCN if available and Cablevision if you are located in a Cablevision market. For Long Island, they would be Cablevision AND Verizon.
Guess I'll stick with RCN and see who their acquirer is as hopefully its sold off and upgraded.
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xlimitx
join:2001-12-31
Wilkes Barre, PA
·ProLog
| YouTube Slow this afternoon from PA
I'm not sure what to think right now. I'm fairly old school so whenever I see slowness and 6 times out of 11 I just blame it on "net congestion", but when I think about it YouTube was slow and unresponsive around 3:30PM today. Google, however, I can't say is ever unresponsive but I believe that's due to their content delivery by Akamai. |
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fiberguy
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join:2005-05-20
| reply to TKJunkMail
Re: Comcast better have one damn good explanation for this
No doubt, huh?
And with all these "they better not cut off X and not others" posts... I could care less if a site like google or youtube (expecially) were blocked for a while if those sites are bringing the network to a crawl. I didn't subscribe to the Comcast youtube online service, I subscribed to internet access. If a high volume of users are accessing any bw intense site and the entire network is crawling becuase of it, I would EXPECT them to pull the plug until they can figure out what's happening so that the rest of us can use the internet.
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JamesPC
join:2005-10-12
Orange, CA
| reply to GilbertMark
Re: Tubes were clogged
The ISP need to create a better business model (if neccessary) and charge more for bandwidth from there customers. It is there customers that want to access Google. Google pays an ISP as well but in this case google is the ISP for itself. So I say "get over your 12.95 DSL lines and create a profitable business model without taxing other companies". |
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JamesPC
join:2005-10-12
Orange, CA
| reply to furlonium
Re: No?
Exactly, I am also a comcast user. My speeds are always great to any site. But the Fact is that if it was not, its nobodies fault but the ISP. And if it just isnt working something needs to change with the ISP, make more money to build bigger network or invest in bigger network. Why do the ISP think that they can get away with, giving the content providers there unwanted bagage? Do what Are TERMS of Condition said and everything will be fine. They are obviously on top of blocking and throttling the network and all within TOS, now keeping speeds to agreed levels is a different story. ISP's DO YOUR JOB! |
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
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join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast
| reply to TKJunkMail
Re: Hummm
Abovenet? Choking? Naw...
Abovenet and AT&T seem to have problems ALOT!
Anyone remember last year? I do! 
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