David
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clubs: | So I guess they didn't really prove
that the internet was the source of thier problem. Good going MPAA, what a way to not prove your arguement!! |
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Fountainhead
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clubs: | It's 38% of the problem..
So what is your point?
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TKJunkMail
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| said by Fountainhead  :It's 38% of the problem.. So what is your point? You beat me to that point. The internet piracy is still to the tune $7.8 billion. |
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rachelsfx
join:2004-09-27
Pensacola, FL
| I agree
The movie industry is one of the few with a huge surplus for the USA. Lost revenue does equal lost tax revenue.
If you watch you should pay to watch it not get a DVD for $5 from some street vendor or download from China.
Movies cost a lot of money to make. $200 million+ for the summer blockbuster. Add another $50-100 million to market.
In this arena, it does cost jobs. It does erode our trade deficit. You want to watch--pay for it like your parents did. |
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David
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| reply to Fountainhead
Re: So I guess they didn't really prove
said by Fountainhead :It's 38% of the problem.. So what is your point? They proved that 62% of the problem was not on the internet. |
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Karl Bode
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join:2000-03-02 | 140.000 jobs....
Or just one yacht for Dick Armey or any of a hundred overpaid Hollywood executives. |
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FiL
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| reply to David
Re: So I guess they didn't really prove
i hear what Beach is saying; why go after the smaller outfits head on, with all that tenacity?
The AA's sue dead people. Grandmas. While Joe Publics on the street making a killin' off of 12cent blank dvd and cd burns.
Im skeptical on the number of jobs being lost due to the piraters. One lost job in the "industry" means another new employee for the pirates! See, it evens out.
Plus, 170,000 minumum wage jobs is NOT what the country needs at this point. |
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odreian615
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Re: I agree
I agree to a point but how many jobs do bootlegs make I mean you have the blank media companies the cd/dvd burner makers all reaping benifits from bootlegs
and 140,000 jobs lost is a lie if thats the case it would'nt be anyone working in the music and movie industry since bootlegs been out for over 10 years |
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hopeflicker
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| reply to Karl Bode
Re: 140.000 jobs....
said by Karl Bode :Or just one yacht for Dick Armey or any of a hundred overpaid Hollywood executives. Dont forget the overpaid actors too 
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RayW
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| 20.5 Billion in losses?
Wonder how they came up with that figure? From what I was told, most companies with that theft rate would be out of business fast. Of course to our 'lawmakers', that is probably just a few days of spending.
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Tophet
join:2002-11-30
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| reply to rachelsfx
Re: I agree
That's not totally correct. Some people would rather download the movie and see if it's any good before going to the movies to see it or buy the DVD. I'm not saying everyone, but some. If hollywood would produce quality work at reasonable prices, then people would pay the money. Plus not to mention the media attention and verbal attention it receives as free advertising from the internet downloads. |
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| reply to FiL
Re: So I guess they didn't really prove
said by FiL :Plus, 170,000 minumum wage jobs is NOT what the country needs at this point. The movie industry has numerous high paid UNION jobs. And any loss of jobs there aren't minimum wage ones.
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Karl Bode
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join:2000-03-02 | reply to hopeflicker
Re: 140.000 jobs....
Yes, feigning concern for "little people jobs" when they're doling out the GDP of small countries to hollywood talent is a cute schtick... |
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Dr Demento
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| reply to RayW
Re: 20.5 Billion in losses?
So if I don't get a job at Blockbuster I know who to blame. What kind of polls does the MPAA take to come up with these figures and the fact is it still dwarfs what the top movies get at the box office.  |
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mazhurg
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Portage La Prairie, MB | reply to Fountainhead
Re: So I guess they didn't really prove
This is for anybody that buys into so called "studies" funded by self-interest groups...
Psst... want to buy the Brooklyn bridge? good deal!
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reub2000
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Just think about how many people the ISPs, and makers of MP3 players employ, and a few jobs lost to piracy isn't that bad.
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rachelsfx
join:2004-09-27
Pensacola, FL
| reply to Tophet
Re: I agree
said by Tophet :That's not totally correct. Some people would rather download the movie and see if it's any good before going to the movies to see it or buy the DVD. I'm not saying everyone, but some. If hollywood would produce quality work at reasonable prices, then people would pay the money. Plus not to mention the media attention and verbal attention it receives as free advertising from the internet downloads. Okay, that is why we have REVIEWS! People can read them or go to Yahoo and read user reviews. Your argument is pretty ridiculous (watch it for free so I know if I want to pay to see it  ). |
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Kilroy
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| I wonder
How much job loss does crummy product cost? Hollywood hasn't had an original idea in quite some time. We get the sequel of this or the remake of that. Does this take into account that they are making TV shows of the 80s into movies that no one wants to see?
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rachelsfx
join:2004-09-27
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| reply to odreian615
Re: I agree
said by odreian615 :I agree to a point but how many jobs do bootlegs make I mean you have the blank media companies the cd/dvd burner makers all reaping benifits from bootlegs and 140,000 jobs lost is a lie if thats the case it would'nt be anyone working in the music and movie industry since bootlegs been out for over 10 years Bootleg is NOT a legal job. Ummm, considering movies are increasingly being made overseas to control costs where do you think those jobs are not going? Some European countries used to make a few movies a year. Now they make them nonstop.
Exactly what does blank DVDs have to do with anything? |
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rawgerz
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Grove City, PA | reply to Karl Bode
Re: 140.000 jobs....
I think those figures are assuming that anyone that downloads movies WOULD buy it instore if not for online..
Like everyone has extra income to waste on DVDs.. |
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