GunnarDanne
join:2002-12-02
Crown City, OH | Hmm
2011... I think Verizon will have most of their fiber out by then. I could be wrong though. I probably will be wrong. |
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MysticGogeta
The Robot Devil
Premium
join:2005-03-14
League City, TX
clubs:
 ·Comcast
| Perhaps they will, I doubt they will have more then 50-60%ish range, but most of the people who can get it will probally switch to FIOS soI bet there will be a price war around that time to grab customers, and hey I could use a lower cable bill  |
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GunnarDanne
join:2002-12-02
Crown City, OH
| Comcast likes to be cute sometimes. I don't have cable and they come by asking if I like the service (their service). Then I point to the antenna and tell them I love the price. I'd love a lower cable bill or atleast be able to choose which channels I get. |
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hayabusa3303
Over 200 mph
Premium
join:2005-06-29
clubs: | Big deal.
If the cable companies would use the full capabilities of the docsis 3.0 and not cap the modems might give fois and run for its money but, that will never happen.  |
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LeftOfSanity
join:2005-11-06
Felton, DE
| Found this interesting...
"E-router: Related to this is the e-router, a developing spec that will turn the 3.0 modem into a router and do away with the NAT (network address translation) headache. NAT, in existing routers, makes it difficult if not impossible for operators to manage services that hang off the home network. With the e-router, a subnet can be applied in the home that is made more powerful with IPv6 address spacing. "In the old days, DOCSIS was a bridge. Today, the notion is that 3.0 becomes a router that's more in tune with the market and the data that we'll be pushing around," says TI's Peter Percosan. "
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smcallah
join:2004-08-05
Home
| I also found this very interesting. 
said by LeftOfSanity  :your still Retarted! |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
 ·DSL EXTREME
| reply to GunnarDanne
Re: Hmm
When Comcast was in my area, 'basic' analog (no cheap cable here) started at $50.10/month, and digital was $60.40/month for 1 tuner, and both required onsite installation (fees).
They didn't want to compete, so I went to DirecTv $45.95/month for 1 tuner + free install and free equipment and no extra hidden franchise fees.
Note: both Comcast and DirecTv would require $5/month extra for each extra tuner. |
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LeftOfSanity
join:2005-11-06
Felton, DE | reply to smcallah
Re: Found this interesting...
Congrats.
Your the only one who pointed that out. I leave it like that on purpose.  |
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Varlik
Without Honor You Will Never Be Free
Premium
join:2002-01-06
Anderson, SC
| reply to GunnarDanne
Re: Hmm
said by GunnarDanne :2011... I think Verizon will have most of their fiber out by then. I could be wrong though. I probably will be wrong. Verizon isn't everyone's telephone company though. So for those of us in SBC AT&T BellSouth territories you will need to roll the date out a little say to about 2020ish.
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percosan
join:2002-03-13
San Francisco, CA | 2001 sounds late
2011 sounds like a sandbag date. CPE products will be ready for mass deployment in early 2008 so penetration will be based on demand/price and not availability. My opinion is that price will not be a big problem.
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| reply to GunnarDanne
Re: Hmm
said by GunnarDanne :Comcast likes to be cute sometimes. I don't have cable and they come by asking if I like the service (their service). Then I point to the antenna and tell them I love the price. I'd love a lower cable bill or atleast be able to choose which channels I get. I haven't watch network TV( ABC, NBC, CBS ) in years because most of what's on is crap. Yeah attentena gets you free TV, it SHOULD be considering what little value it has. |
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Joe12345678
join:2003-07-22
Des Plaines, IL
| reply to LeftOfSanity
Re: Found this interesting...
said by LeftOfSanity :"E-router: Related to this is the e-router, a developing spec that will turn the 3.0 modem into a router and do away with the NAT (network address translation) headache. NAT, in existing routers, makes it difficult if not impossible for operators to manage services that hang off the home network. With the e-router, a subnet can be applied in the home that is made more powerful with IPv6 address spacing. "In the old days, DOCSIS was a bridge. Today, the notion is that 3.0 becomes a router that's more in tune with the market and the data that we'll be pushing around," says TI's Peter Percosan. " that sounds like it will give the cable providers a easy way to make you pay per system hooked up the the modem and if you try to by pass it they can pull the same legal tricks as they did to the people who uncapped there modem. |
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scantor
join:2004-08-11
Columbus, OH | reply to Varlik
Re: Hmm
Exactly. The idea that there's competition for a lot of the country is laughable. I live in the middle of a metro area with over a million people. I can't get DSL. Literally.
That's all I need to know about my options. Cable it is. |
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calvoiper
join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA
| reply to percosan
Re: 2001 sounds late
I don't know if 2011 is "real" or "sandbag", but it's anything but "Internet time." With standard setting this slow, cable will have long been passed by.
Using standards setting this slow, the Society of Automotive Engineers would just now be getting around to picking procedures for labelling multi-grade engine oils....
calvoiper
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GunnarDanne
join:2002-12-02
Crown City, OH | reply to BF69
Re: Hmm
Mmm... during the days its soaps... at night its basically just better quality soaps |
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
 ·T-Mobile US
| Pathetic...
... that is.
2010? By 2010 most of the Western World countries will be waaay ahead of us, thanks to our rotten, so-called "market"-based (means monopoly-based) approach.
The most annoying thing is that everybody gets away with this shit - the totally corrupt, crooked FCC, the fully corrupt legislative body, the buddies in the goverment...
Congrat cables, your investment in FCC chiefs and Senators etc is working very well. |
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HyPeRbAnD
join:2006-01-07
Stow, MA
| I still think docsis 1.1 & 2.0 can compete with FiOS
Splitting how many customers share a DOCSIS QAM is very easy and doesn't cost as much as DOCSIS3.0. In our system we have been doing this right along. We can make 100 customers per node without even doing any construction. I would think most cable companies that have built HFC networks over the past 15 years are in the same boat.
Even if you dont have spare fibers in a node/splice pack, you can always MUX/DEMUX on a single fiber. They still have many options to consider before having to switch to a new platform. So it wouldn't surprise me if it did take until 2010 or so to deploy 3.0...
You know what's funny, we are splitting nodes not because of high speed data we are splitting because of VOD demands. Adding new streams every 6months or so. |
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Toadman
How do you like these Apples
join:2001-11-28
Medina, OH
| reply to GunnarDanne
Re: Hmm
said by GunnarDanne :2011... I think Verizon will have most of their fiber out by then. I could be wrong though. I probably will be wrong. I am hoping by 2011 that Verizon wakes up and realizes that they have systems in Ohio as well! |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| Qwest fibre
Current cable modem can beat qwest fibre NOW. Qwest's fibre product is capped at 5mbps. even CHARTER cable can do that
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MrChupacabra
Premium
join:2003-03-26
Florida
·Bright House
| reply to Joe12345678
Re: Found this interesting...
Why charge per system? You're still limited to the total up and down speeds no matter how many systems you run. We'll still only support one PC to the modem though.
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