jgkolt
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| Competition is good.
I am not a big supporter of the original evdo service but revision A should address some of the problems. Even though I had good speeds according to verizon my ping was slow and i really could not stream at all. I went over the 5 gig a month rule but never received a letter. I like verizon way better than sprint so this competition is good. Verizon's weakness was they didn't want you to tether originally, and the higher costs. When it comes to network upgrades ALREADY even though they just released evdo service not that long ago will push verizon to keep up. This just proves that competition is good for the consumer and breeds innovation, and ultimately the consumer gets a better product.
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en102
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| Good for them
I've mentioned it before... its the old 'KISS' style. Keep it simple stupid.
Sprint has all 1900 MHz sites and requires only one frequency to work with, and doesn't have to slice up spectrum and reinvent the wheel to make it happen. Having 850/1900 in an area isn't a bad thing...it just increases the cost (dual frequency radios for everything), and having to slice up the network to balance it correctly for use. The only thing that Sprint could do better, is offer more coverage than urban/interstate.
As a user on a Cingular 850/1900 network, I can tell that 850 gets clobbered with use as the signal is typically stronger in any given area than its 1900 MHz counter part, leading to garbled AMR-half rate calls. As a Motorola user, disabling AMR-half rate is an easy thing though 
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jgkolt
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1 edit | Well hearing that Sprint maintains only the 1900 frequency what does Verizon maintain?
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N3OGH
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| Quoted from the article posted on BBR.
"Verizon has offered no timetable for their Revision A upgrade plans. The company is facing a longer timeline than Sprint due to the fact that more than 50% of its network consists of 800mhz towers already feeling network strain (compared to Sprint's full array of 1900mhz towers)."
Not to come off as a wise ass or anything, but it is right there....
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shoan
join:2006-02-27
Benton, AR | ok could I buy some sort of adapter to hook this up to my home desktop and use this for internet access vs dial up or satalite. Wild blue is not selling in our area due to overloading or what not right now and no dsl or cable |
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jgkolt
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Lakewood, OH
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well there is the 850, 900, 1800, 1900 I wasn't sure what else may be there. It also does not specify if and what different frequencies they use for data or voice and if there is a difference.
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wifi4milez
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join:2004-08-07
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| Who is getting 150ms now?
As a long time user of EVDO, I can tell you that I have never received anywhere close to 150ms on Sprint or Verizon. I typically see 500ms or so (507 in the test I just ran). I would personally consider 150 to be an upgrade, and 50ms would be fantastic! 50ms = mobile VoIP in my book.
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MysticGogeta
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Re: Good for them
said by N3OGH  :Quoted from the article posted on BBR. "Verizon has offered no timetable for their Revision A upgrade plans. The company is facing a longer timeline than Sprint due to the fact that more than 50% of its network consists of 800mhz towers already feeling network strain (compared to Sprint's full array of 1900mhz towers)." Not to come off as a wise ass or anything, but it is right there.... No time table as in no date established (Like October 2007 or something) I guess you missed that  |
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iNFEKT
join:2005-06-17
Lansing, MI | reply to wifi4milez
Re: Who is getting 150ms now?
I've been getting 150-200ms on sprints evdo for quite a while. |
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wifi4milez
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Re: Who is getting 150ms now?
said by iNFEKT :I've been getting 150-200ms on sprints evdo for quite a while. You are lucky. I have never received anything below 300ms anywhere in the country using Sprint or Verizon.
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cpayne5
join:2004-01-06 | I consistently get sub 300ms on 1xrtt. Sub 200ms in ideal conditions.
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iNFEKT
join:2005-06-17
Lansing, MI | reply to wifi4milez
I'd guess it has something to do with living in NYC |
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wifi4milez
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| said by iNFEKT :I'd guess it has something to do with living in NYC I guess so, however I have used it in NYC, Boston, LA, Miami, Dallas, Denver, and San Diego with the same results. Actually, I was getting 900ms+ on some tests with Verizon in LA!
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shoan
join:2006-02-27
Benton, AR | reply to shoan
Re: Good for them
so was the poast deleted due to telling me how to do it or was there an a hole being a jerk. Still curious to know if ther is anyway to use this on a desktop? |
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TKJunkMail
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1 edit | reply to shoan
said by shoan :ok could I buy some sort of adapter to hook this up to my home desktop and use this for internet access vs dial up or satalite. Wild blue is not selling in our area due to overloading or what not right now and no dsl or cable Sure it can be done. But it would be a costly option if you use the connection very much. Sprint would be a better deal than Verizon. But you should check the coverage maps linked in the BBR story to see if your zip code is even covered for wireless broadband.
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shoan
join:2006-02-27
Benton, AR
| we are covered by their wireless broadband but would you think it is really that costly when I only have the choice of 24.4 k dial up and hugesnet sat internet. Seems like about 80 dollars a month would not be that bad if my only other choice would be around the same price with a sat. going with sprint of course |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
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Valencia, CA
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| reply to jgkolt
850/1900 are frequencies licensed for cellular (850) and pcs (1900) communications. Both are used for voice and data.
Here's a overview
»tk.com/wireless/800cell.html
»tk.com/wireless/1900pcs.html
And here's an older breakdown
»www.wirelesswavelength.com/
The issue with 850 MHz band is total amount of spectrum
850 there's 'only' 12.5 MHz base/12.5MHz mobile on A and B licenses. Those that currently have 850 MHz licenses MUST use a portion for Analog service, as required by FCC.
1900 there's 'only' 65 MHz base/65MHz mobile.
Eg. having an 850 MHz license + 10 MHz of PCS is not always as manageable as having the same amount all in the same band. Having to run analog service + having to slice up the spectrum doesn't always work well.
Eg. 35 MHz of PCS on something such as PCS will make 35 MHz of evenly distributed spectrum. Breaking it up into 25 MHz of 850 and another 10 MHz of PCS doesn't work quite as nice.
On PCS, |
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roamer1
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said by shoan :ok could I buy some sort of adapter to hook this up to my home desktop and use this for internet access vs dial up or satalite. All you need is a PCI PC Card adapter ($20 or so)...
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TKJunkMail
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said by shoan :we are covered by their wireless broadband but would you think it is really that costly when I only have the choice of 24.4 k dial up and hugesnet sat internet. Seems like about 80 dollars a month would not be that bad if my only other choice would be around the same price with a sat. going with sprint of course That depends on how much you use it. If Sprint and they don't cap you, you could use quite a lot of bandwidth. If Verizon, you'd have to make sure you followed their terms of service and weren't using it to stream music or videos, etc. or they could drop you. The cost is reasonable if it fulfills your requirements and you can afford it.
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