amungus
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join:2004-11-26
America
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| I was just talking about this...
with a friend the other night...
yep, 6MHZ per analog channel... which I'll be sad to see go away in the future, but hey, more is always nicer.
They could easily implement docsis 3 at that point too, which would obviously be good for the interweb 
say they even left a couple (or 5-10) analog channels out there for fallback or emergency use, or whatever, that'd still free up the VAST majority of their available space. then there could be a boatload of standard def digital channels, and a real use of HD for the rest.
on the sad note, I still love good ol' analog when it has a good signal. looks great on a nice tube, reliable as heck, doesn't pixellate, have random glitches like odd dropouts, and I'd MUCH rather have a bit of static than up and losing the signal altogether. ..oh well, towards the future we go. |
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
 ·North State Commun..
| Impressive
I've seen the local Time Warner RDC in Greensboro that serves hundreds of thousands of customers. That thing is pretty much 100% fiber. It's VERY impressive.
The real question is, how close to the customer is all that fiber from the RDC actually run? |
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liquidnw
join:2005-06-05
Bronx, NY
| We Will see
They continually say they have the capacity to do XYZ. But they have all been slow in upping speeds outside of Cablevision and they all have been slow to add Highdef channels which ironically they blame on not having the bandwidth. Which is it? So while its a great talking point to make your investors feel good, let see some action finally. |
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bigjimc
join:2003-04-21
Middleboro, MA
| The Cable Co better get a Statewide Frachise
Since many on the local Cable Co.s have local franchise agreements to keep analog channels for another 5 to 7 years (based on a 10 year agreement here in MA).
They are going to have to do something to keep those old (pun intended) non cable box users happy. How about give away one cable box to every subscriber for the ability to give up the analog signals.
Or
Why not set up some of the housing authorities with Digital to Analog whole system converters like a hotel room? I know there are other issues. No broadband to each unit etc... But I was just thinking...
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DMWCincy
join:2004-04-27
Fairfield, OH
| reply to liquidnw
Re: We Will see
said by liquidnw  :They continually say they have the capacity to do XYZ. But they have all been slow in upping speeds outside of Cablevision and they all have been slow to add Highdef channels which ironically they blame on not having the bandwidth. Which is it? So while its a great talking point to make your investors feel good, let see some action finally. I wish they would start to do something. I'm not asking for much. I just want a bump in upload speed. I have plenty of download bandwidth right now. I would happily take more download speed but first bump me to 1Mb upload. I do a lot from work and the small 386Kb upload from TWC sucks when I'm uploading a huge project. I know I can get the business plan but the amount of money they charge is crazy compare to the FIOS speeds/prices. |
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cypherstream
Looking forward to the future of things.
Premium,MVM
join:2004-12-02
Reading, PA
clubs:
| Were due for an upgrade
I'm currently served by a Comcast 750 MHz system in PA which I'm told is just about running at 100% capacity. Granted we do have ADS, HD-VOD, and a decent lineup for 750 MHz. Next fall (2007) the 750 MHz system will be approaching the 10 year old mark. General rule of thumb is a system must be profitable a minimum of 8 to 10 years to be considered for an upgrade, therefore our time is coming. Some employees are saying an upgrade to 1 GHz is going to begin 4th Quarter 2007. This will probably entail
running new lines. When our 450 MHz system was built out to 750 by AT&T Broadband in 98, they kept the same feeder lines and cables that were there for years. They cut in new taps, amps, bridgers, and le's, also ran fiber and installed nodes. Some employees suggest that a new system will be built from scratch and the current one will be wreaked out. Not sure which route they are going to take since its not set in stone yet. Also the Panasonic 250 GB DVR should be available in 2007 which has mpeg 4 / H.264 codec ability which will further enhance the bandwidth capability. Most likely frequencies over 865 MHz will be reserved for future data services such as docsis 3.0 channel bonding. This would have to be the case because all currently deployed Motorola STB's only have an 860 MHz tuner. |
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CableTool
Poorly Representing MYSELF.
Premium
join:2004-11-12
| Next Report
I cant wait for the next report to say that cable is a fad and so is broadband. Cable has MORE THEN ENOUGH capacity for speeds. High Def additions also have a little room and its usually just looking for content and pricing.
And again.. once the analogs are mostly gone it will be a whole new cable world.
Then there is channel bonding.. etc etc etc. There is a myriad of options that will keep the cablecos competitive with fiber for quite some time.
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ | Plenty of capacity?
Ok cox, wheres my 20000/5000 that people of FIOS' top tier get?
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morbo
Complete Your Transaction
join:2002-01-22
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clubs:
 ·Charter Pipeline
·AT&T Southwest
| reply to bigjimc
Re: The Cable Co better get a Statewide Frachise
said by bigjimc :They are going to have to do something to keep those old (pun intended) non cable box users happy. How about give away one cable box to every subscriber for the ability to give up the analog signals. i'm not looking forward to having a cable box. the delay is just changing channels is enough to drive me crazy. i will hold out as long as possible. if forced, i will buy a new tv and cable card it. |
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heathcpe
join:2002-03-19
Brandon, MS
1 edit | Doesn't Matter Though
Now maybe they (Comcast in my case) should invest in buying adequate capacity linking these cable systems to the rest of the world. Every night I deal with high latency, reduced bandwidth, sluggish VPN connections, and choppy VoIP phone conversations. I'm talking latency at about 150 to 200 ms on most nights, and reaching 650ms on really bad nights.
»Rankin, MS Nightly Network Congestion Status |
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htin11
join:2000-08-10
Flushing, NY | plenty of capacity???
Plenty of capacity, then why does my internet crawls between 7 pm to 12am??? |
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Xela19115
join:2000-10-06
Richboro, PA
 ·Verizon FIOS
| said by htin11 :Plenty of capacity, then why does my internet crawls between 7 pm to 12am??? Because you share the same 38.8 Mbps DOCSIS channel with 500 people on your node. |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| reply to heathcpe
Re: Doesn't Matter Though
said by heathcpe :Now maybe they (Comcast in my case) should invest in buying adequate capacity linking these cable systems to the rest of the world. Every night I deal with high latency, reduced bandwidth, sluggish VPN connections, and choppy VoIP phone conversations. I'm talking latency at about 150 to 200 ms on most nights, and reaching 650ms on really bad nights. » Rankin, MS Nightly Network Congestion Status I bet VOIP is pretty on that! (NOT)
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DaveNJ
No Fear
join:1999-09-01
New Jersey
·Comcast
·Patriot Media
| reply to htin11
Re: plenty of capacity???
the real reason...
Comcast doesnt want to spend money on upgrading your node, because similar to the phone company on voice, there is no real motivation.
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Ahrenl
join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA | reply to morbo
Re: The Cable Co better get a Statewide Frachise
Delay? When is the last time you used a cable box? I have no delay.. (I have one of the dual tuner DVR boxes.. 6812?) |
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russotto
join:2000-10-05
Collegeville, PA | Far more profitable....
To just add another few dozen shopping channels. |
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MadMANN
Premium
join:2005-08-19
·Comcast
| reply to heathcpe
Re: Doesn't Matter Though
said by heathcpe :Now maybe they (Comcast in my case) should invest in buying adequate capacity linking these cable systems to the rest of the world. Every night I deal with high latency, reduced bandwidth, sluggish VPN connections, and choppy VoIP phone conversations. I'm talking latency at about 150 to 200 ms on most nights, and reaching 650ms on really bad nights. » Rankin, MS Nightly Network Congestion Status That was SusComs fault not Comcast's. Unfortunately, Comcast is left to fix the mess down there, which will take months. |
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jervin123
join:2005-04-14
Philadelphia, PA | reply to heathcpe
Well lets see there main provider is At&t with limited peering with other Cable isps they do need to upgrade the regional networks also. |
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MadMANN
Premium
join:2005-08-19
·Comcast
| This is entertaining
Sometimes it's fun to read through cable bashing comments from people who do not know the first thing about how a cable system works, yet make suggestions about how it should be run. C'mon, guys keep it coming! I'm bored!  |
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magnushsi
join:2002-11-06
Cedar Springs, MI | I couldn't agree more...Everyone who has a cable modem and a television knows exactly what the MSO's should be doing and has every reason in the world they need 100MB two way pipes.... |
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