  CheesePremium
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2 edits | Um..... It's the internet, if you can't handle the heat, get yo ass out da kitchen!
Edit: Also, if she wasn't, why did she get so defensive? Most people would shrug it off, especially when someone posts it on the internet, and especially someone in ANOTHER STATE. JMO | |
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join:2003-09-26
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kudos:18 | Re: Um..... I can think of better things to call these types.  | |
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kudos:1 | Re: Um..... said by dadkins:I can think of better things to call these types.  | |
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| |  TransmasterDon't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY | Hell hath no fury like a pissed witch. | |
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| | | | | Re: Um..... This must of been her first time logged on the interweb and took offense :P | |
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| | | | | said by Transmaster:Hell hath no fury like a pissed witch. She'll get you for that.  | |
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join:2004-05-03
Bloomington, IN | You're bound to get sued for $24 million! | |
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| |  rawgerzThe hell was that?Premium
join:2004-10-03
Grove City, PA | wow, I guess free speech really has died | |
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| | | | | Free speech as per your Constitution is more to do with the government suppressing public opinion and has naught do to with libel. | |
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join:2002-02-10
Carrollton, TX
kudos:1 | died?
It's been dead for about 5 years now.
R.I.P. America "Land Of The Free, Home Of The Brave." 1776-2001
Hello, Amerika "Land of the Watched, Home of the Litigious" 2001- | |
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| | |  bobrkYou kids get offa my lawnPremium
join:2000-02-02
San Jose, CA
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| | | Read the article. She had a case. If it affects business/reputation, slandel, libel, and defamation can be done. Not easy, but done. | |
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join:2002-01-22
00000 | she is...
she is a dumb f-ing bitch. come sue me! | |
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|  ToadmanHypnotoad
join:2001-11-28
Ohio
kudos:1 | Re: she is... Wait until you buy something from her on Ebay, and then you can call her a crook! | |
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| quatrixPremium
join:2005-02-11
Davie, FL
kudos:2 | Re: Gee.... eBay feedback is a joke anyway. Every positive comment is "A+++++++++++++++ GREATEST SELLER/BUYER EVER". It's almost as bad as the Olympics where the lowest score is 9.5. | |
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| | | said by NoOne_Import :
Damn, if this is the case, well anyone giving me negative feedback on eBay and telling me that I'm a crook, well I'll just sue them then! Hahahahahaha! Yes, this gets better everyday! I just love it!
Heck yeah!! Now, all you have to do is whiz the potential buyer off and have him call you a couple names, then sue him to the max and retire. The easy life!! Only in America!!
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join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
kudos:1 | Although.... I think someone, somewhere is going to look at this, cock their eyebrow and go WTF and overturn it. This should have been thrown out in the beginning IMO. | |
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| | Wow I can only guess the comments that were made hurt her business, that would be the only reason i can see it getting persued so far. | |
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| oh boy... You know, I read some really interesting content here, at BBR. And replies (aka vents) are amusing, some are rants, most informative, and others just plain "forum" talk.
But yesterday, I read a reply to TKJunkmail (I don't know him/her personally, and don't always agree with TK's posts) and was rather disturbed that someone actually wrote him as a "jerk". Come on people, grow up or logoff. Or be sued!
Not seeing agreement is one thing, and you can argue that, but this woman's point can be taken from the fact that "we are a litigious" society evermore.
Sue you. Sue everybody.
So, is her point valid (?), and now she arrogantly sets forth a precedent for others to sue because "i-sticks and i-stone can break my i-bones, but your flames can make me millions!"
"... in the name of justice!" I would love to read the context of the actually dialog!
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| | | Re: oh boy... They call me a b*tch on occassion (all the time in their heads I'm sure).
I rather like Jewish Princess B*tch. Usually, I take name calling an honor since the person calling me names is too stupid to argue with me in the first place. | |
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Isn't the right term JAP? | |
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| | | said by cableties:You know, I read some really interesting content here, at BBR. And replies (aka vents) are amusing, some are rants, most informative, and others just plain "forum" talk. But yesterday, I read a reply to TKJunkmail (I don't know him/her personally, and don't always agree with TK's posts) and was rather disturbed that someone actually wrote him as a "jerk". Come on people, grow up or logoff. Or be sued! Not seeing agreement is one thing, and you can argue that, but this woman's point can be taken from the fact that "we are a litigious" society evermore. Sue you. Sue everybody. So, is her point valid (?), and now she arrogantly sets forth a precedent for others to sue because "i-sticks and i-stone can break my i-bones, but your flames can make me millions!" "... in the name of justice!" I would love to read the context of the actually dialog! (truth hurts?) A few points come to mind on this case.
1st - it was a default judgement with no defense even showing up. I doubt it can be used as precedent in future cases.
2nd - it doesn't say in the story, but I suspect the people involved were using their own names. Hard to make a case for defamation if everyone is using an alias, like most msg boards do.
3rd - a future case that involves people with something to lose and with some money would probably go to an appeals court where free speech issues would be weighed against defamation charges. And defamation is hard to prove. The burden falls on the plaintiff to prove defamation. Since the defendant didn't show up for this case, no burden of proof was required.
4th - it should be a wake up call to some msg board owners that they should moderate personal attacks more aggressively.
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| |  tsu9
join:2001-08-17
Wheeling, IL | Re: oh boy... 4th - it should be a wake up call to some msg board owners that they should moderate personal attacks more aggressively.
Why? The messageboard wasn't sued or involved in any meaningful way (otherwise they would have been sued). This was resolved properly--person to person.
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| | the details Since Scheff is a manager/corporate owner, calling her a "fraud" and a "con artist" is directly relevant to her occupation. As such, the decision is not entirely absurd in the face of existing laws. If Bock knew she was not a sham and maliciously attempted to hurt Scheff by spreading such rumors, he would be liable (though hardly for $11.3 million in damages). That said, it IS absurd that the judge was somehow convinced that Bock KNEW Scheff was "good" at her job and tried to defame her anyway. Obviously, Bock believes Scheff is a criminal and was trying to warn others. As such, I am bewildered both at the staggering numbers (which Bock cannot afford) and the finding in general. | |
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join:2002-10-02
PwnZone | Re: the details yeah but still, thats saying that reputation alone has value. court decisions up until now say no | |
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| | Guys, read the article..... The woman being sued made no defense. Summary judgement entered.  | |
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| | not surprised this isnt surprising, we live in a country where you can sue somebody for burning yourself on hot coffee, or eating at McDonald's all the time and sue somebody because you cant fasten your seatbelt. ah yes, the american legal system, isnt it great? | |
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tsu9
join:2001-08-17
Wheeling, IL | Note to self: Sue people that make naughty remarks online.
That'll 'learn ya for accusing me of being a socialist communist right-wing hippie nazi! | |
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join:2001-01-28
Riverdale, GA | New Defamation Lawsuit in the works ? Wait a second...I've just been called an ingrate - or to be more accurate, anyone who has read this topic has just joined hundreds, if not thousands, of others who have also just read this topic, and if logged in -- the proof being their comment to this topic, as well as their comment and defamation being witnessed by NON-DSLreports.com members, who are ALSO READING THIS THREAD -- have been defamed by DSLreports calling them ingrates.
I sincerely believe that a class action defamation lawsuit could be filed, and if placed in the right jurisdiction - let's say...Florida State Supreme Court? (I need to go to the beach anyway)....I could..I mean, WE could win millions of dollars...Any defamation/worker's comp/personal injury attorneys out there want to represent m...I mean, us ?
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 SpazmotoKill all Bloodsuckers
join:2003-08-22 | Wow If I got money for every time I've been flamed on the interwebs I'd be the richest man alive. | |
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| | Hmm Who is going to pay her that money. Could somebody explain that to me. | |
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| | New suit Can we sue people who comment and obviously havent rtfa? | |
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join:2005-03-10
Whittier, AK | Can I sue Kamm? For bolding every other word in his postings. | |
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join:2004-06-03
Kihei, HI
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| Reading the whole story can be so enlightening! LOL! Some of the finer points:
• the plaintiff sought no specific damages. That number must have come out the jury's collective ass.
• the plaintiff has not decided whether or not to try collecting any of the award.
• the plaintiff "was so vested in being vindicated, she was willing to pay court costs"... "even though she knew the defendant ... has no hope of paying"
• the defendant offered no defense because she was otherwise occupied by Katerina, a flooded house, being temporarily relocated to Texas... court papers were not deliverable during this time.
• because the defendant offered no defense, we don't know how true any of her critical/negative comments about the plaintiff were.
For those that really want more information closer to the source, I suggest visiting the forum in question... for eg:
»wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?t=18594
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join:2002-12-20
Bradenton, FL | What's next? 1) We have people suing for calling bad names.
2) We have spammers suing for calling them spammers
3) Soon we'll have criminals suing for calling them criminals
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| | | Re: What's next? said by viperpa33s:1) We have people suing for calling bad names. 2) We have spammers suing for calling them spammers 3) Soon we'll have criminals suing for calling them criminals What's Next? Dogs and cats suing their owners for being spayed and neutered. | |
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|  KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
·AT&T DSL Service
| said by viperpa33s:1) We have people suing for calling bad names. 2) We have spammers suing for calling them spammers 3) Soon we'll have criminals suing for calling them criminals What's Next? 4) You criticize the Administration and get siezed off the street and disappear with no trial and no charges ever being brought against you, other then vague allegations of being a suspected terrorist....
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|  birdfeedrPremium,MVM
join:2001-08-11
Warwick, RI
kudos:5 | said by viperpa33s:2) We have spammers suing for calling them spammers? Yeah, spamhaus.org has a mess to deal with. Even if whatsizzname is a spammer. | |
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| | | Actually, a criminal did sue a home owner after her broke into his house because he slipped on something and hurt himself. The criminal won. That's ridiculous.
In Florida, if someone breaks into your house, you can empty a full clip and it's your word against the moron that broke in laying dead in your home.
"Why did you shoot him 19 times?"
"It's a semi-automatic and, well, he kept moving."
"Oh, no problem. By the way, I thought the smiley face on his chest was a nice touch."
"Thanks."
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join:2002-12-03
United State
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| Boo Hoo If you expect your version of the circumstances to be heard, you must be in court to tell your story and defend your position. As the accused learned, Slander is not only a prosecutable offense, it is an expensive regret.
Years ago I read a comment in Ann Landers well worth remembering. I was something like this: "You are the master of the unspoken word, Once it is spoken, you are its slave."
Too bad the accused woman didn't know this before she uttered her words.
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join:2001-08-31
Byron, GA
1 edit | trolls I can see this happening on DSLreports. the mods are letting them get by with it.... | |
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