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Comments on news posted 2006-10-18 05:30:07: Around the Industry: UK broadband provider Orange is experiencing a "major" national outage French ISP Free opens up subscribers' WiFi to each other; Fon killer? Customer support - the forgotten front in the broadband war NYC eyes BPL 8,000 more.. ..

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insomniac84

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Someon at Apple needs to go to jail.

There needs to be jail time with this. Apple planted a virus on it's devices to take out a competitors OS. They advertise how OSX is virus free while windows is full of them, so I would consider it criminal to purposely propagate a windows virus to backup your false advertising claims. This could only be worse if it was an anti-virus company that did this.


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Re: Someone at Apple needs to go to jail.

Some one at Apple needs to lose their job. how in the hell can they blame Microsoft for something they are selling and making.Microsoft has nothing to do with the production of the iPod. When i first read about this a few days ago i knew Apple wouldn't take the blame for their own mistake and would try to pass it off onto Microsoft.


jwsmiths4
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Apple needs to punish it's suppliers. Apple did NOT put the virus on the iPod themselvs so no one at Apple should be punished per se, but the manufacturer who is using an infected computer to test brand new iPods on needs to be replaced with a smarter one.
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jwsmiths4
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reply to insomniac84
Re: Someon at Apple needs to go to jail.

Oh my GOD that sounds retarded. Seriously do you think before you post? Apple is trying to take out Microsoft's OS through iPod viruses... that sounds like a page right out of MS's playbook to me, not Apple's.
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said by jwsmiths4 See Profile :

Oh my GOD that sounds retarded. Seriously do you think before you post? Apple is trying to take out Microsoft's OS through iPod viruses... that sounds like a page right out of MS's playbook to me, not Apple's.
How does that sound retarded? Obvious game plan of ANY company is to take out the competition. Especially in the computing game. Nobody's fault Apple is really that stupid to think they could pull it off!

Although, granted, Apple is not totally to blame here.
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Primis1

join:2005-06-13
Coldwater, MI

reply to jwsmiths4
Re: Someone at Apple needs to go to jail.

It's called Quality Control.

Apparently Apple needs to have it explained to them... if this had happened with MS or IBM, people would be calling for heads. But somehow because it's Apple people want to say it's ok.

It's not. Apple deserves to burn for it...

DarnellP

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said by Primis1 See Profile :

Apple deserves to burn for it...
Yeah burn for something that affected less than 1% of the iPods available in the last month or so. Now while I understand that even one is one too many, they've acknowledged the problem, rectified the problem and point users to free steps that they can take in the rare event that they're affected by the problem. Most anything mass produced is going to have the occasional problem child that gets by even with superlative quality control measures in place.

Nonetheless, I'm sure the anti-Apple brigade is going to run with this. Enjoy.

Primis1

join:2005-06-13
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I can't and won't cry for Apple when the Apple zealots have taken this same attitude towards MS for eons.

If this were MS and not Apple, they'd be the first calling for blood. Just because it's Apple it does NOT just make it ok.

By the way, I find it funny that an infected PC is being blamed during replication. Apparently a Mac isn't good enough to do such a simple process?

So yeah. Paybacks are a...


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Symantec should kiss our asses with their bullshit software. Their utils don't work for shit anyway. Personally I'd rather have kernel level locked out rather then open so that some third party utility can "try" and keep my system safe. That is just BS. Case in point... you don't see Sony opening up kernel mode to users on such propriatery devices as the PSP... why should Microsoft do this for the PC. If the end user make the choice to use MS's OS on their PC then it's their choice and shouldn't be bitching about not having kernel level access to allow other apps to access it. It's called security people... shit. If you don't like it, run another OS.

Third party "requirements" and people's bitching are the number 1 and 2 reasons why MS's OSs have some of these flaws... people want open doors and windows, but don't want people to come in.... you can't have both.


MysticGogeta
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reply to cork1958
Re: Someon at Apple needs to go to jail.

Quite interesting, blame microsoft for a device that had a virus on it before it is plugged into a Windows OS. Gee it makes perfect sense
Apple should pay for this mistake its their fault they used this manufacturer, and not blame microsoft which seems to be the attitude of apple. "Lets bash Microsoft that'll take the heat off our mistakes!"
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jwsmiths4
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Re: Someone at Apple needs to go to jail.

How is an infected Mac going to cause this? That makes no sense. This is an isolated event in which the manufacturer fucked up some iPods before Apple even had taken delivery of them.
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jwsmiths4
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Re: Someon at Apple needs to go to jail.

Because infecting computers with viruses is NOT going to take Windows down... Windows does a good enough job on their own of getting infected without Apple's help.
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I agree this is not really destroying the windows OS if you have a anti virus (Big duh for windows users) this wont do anything. Go to jail? No just pay any dammages and that will be enough for me.
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jwsmiths4
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Could you please clarify what you mean beginning with Got o join?
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jwsmiths4
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reply to MysticGogeta
Actually if you think about it the iPod was plugged into a Windows OS based machine during QC. Therefore your post is entirely wrong.
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reply to Primis1
Re: Someone at Apple needs to go to jail.

If Apple is to be crisped, then MS needs to be atomized. And a good smack at the vendor who infected these ipods.

This has happened before (MacAddict sent out CDROMs that had a trojan on them) and it usually is unknown to the manufacturer. Some thrid party vendor/supplier is responsible.

Apple atleast is open enough to say "Whoa, folks! If connecting this to a PC, make sure it has current AV software. Some of our products were infected by supplier during setup/testing...and yes, via Windows!"

What a great spin!


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iPod = Apple, right?

So, where ever these iPods were made, why weren't Apple computers used to program them.
Or were they Apple computers that were used?

If the mfgr was using PCs to program these infected iPods... what does that say about Apple?

If they were Apple computers that were used, what was a Windows virus doing on that Apple to begin with?

To coin a phrase - "That does not compute!"
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reply to Primis1
Re: Someone at Apple needs to go to jail.

said by Primis1 See Profile :

It's called Quality Control.

Apparently Apple needs to have it explained to them... if this had happened with MS or IBM, people would be calling for heads. But somehow because it's Apple people want to say it's ok.

It's not. Apple deserves to burn for it...
I agree. Apple was obviously testing some iPods before shipping by using Windows PC's that were infected with a virus. That they didn't make sure those PC's were virus free is totally their own fault. Trying to blame Microsoft is just more of the same denial process that Apple has exhibited about their own systems being invulnerable to viruses.
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 Allofmp3 is a rogue outfit and will be brought under control

Allofmp3 has been illicitly selling copyrighted music it has no license to sell. It has been hiding behind a Russian legal system that has had no incentive to enforce copyright law in Russia. But now Russia wants in to the WTO and the US, which is the largest supplier of intellectual property in the world, wants Russia to enforce IP laws before they can get in. Russia now has the incentive to enforce these laws and allofmp3 is going down as soon as the IFPI drags them into court.
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jwsmiths4
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Re: Someone at Apple needs to go to jail.

Again: Apple was not testing the iPods -- the testing was done at the manufacturing site by an entity separate and un-related to Apple.
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