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Comments on news posted 2006-10-19 09:57:35: When Fios was first getting deployed, there were frequent complaints about Verizon contractors digging up azaleas and cutting gas lines - a small price to pay for those eager to get faster broadband speeds. ..

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nightdesigns
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AZ
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Same in my City

The city in which I live in, Irvine, CA, has the same issue. They had a very lenghty council meeting with one of the Lightspeed reps over this issue a few weeks back. Keep in mind, this is a city where we don't have any telephone/electric poles (everything is underground). Cell towers here are few and far inbetween because "they are ugly".
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russotto

join:2000-10-05
Collegeville, PA

It's not the boxes...

If AT&T would give these municipalities the kickbacks (franchise fees) they want, they'd let AT&T erect fluorescent Death Star replicas along with the boxes. The boxes are just a convenient excuse.

I mean, take a look at that ugly fence behind the box. Geneva, IL just ain't a place that actually cares about aesthetics.

nasadude

join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
·Comcast

reply to nightdesigns
Re: Same in my City

said by nightdesigns See Profile :

... Cell towers here are few and far inbetween because "they are ugly".
disguise them as palm trees - I saw one like this along the PCH in Ventura. I had to do a double-take when I first saw it.


Topmounter
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join:2001-02-20
Evergreen, CO
reply to nightdesigns
Paint it so it looks like an A-class Mercedes

bogey780

join:2004-03-19
Here
so let me get this right...

It's okay to build a square 3k sqft McMansion but heaven forbid a small VRAd gets placed?


pnh102
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Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast

reply to nightdesigns
Re: Same in my City

said by nightdesigns See Profile :

Cell towers here are few and far inbetween because "they are ugly".
I'll bet the same people also whine equally hard about cell phones not working.

I always thought the FCC could overrule any local or state restrictions on cell tower placement.
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BK3

join:2001-04-10
Geneva, IL
·AT&T Yahoo

reply to russotto
Re: It's not the boxes...

Yes it is the boxes, and you are wrong on 2 points:

1) As a resident of Geneva, IL. I can tell you that we do care about aesthetics!

2) If you actually read the captions for the pictures, you would see that these boxes are in Wheaton, IL., and are used as examples, the pictures were not taken in Geneva. Currently there are no lightspeed boxes in Geneva.


ronpin
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Nirvana
reply to pnh102
They only do what the NSA tells 'em to...

So how could it be their fault?

kash

join:2005-08-13
Houston, TX

reply to bogey780
Re: so let me get this right...

i vote that they should not get broadband at all and that project lightspeed should come to houston were we'd welcome thoes ugly boxes hell if they put one in my back yard i'd run an ethernet cable out to it

Chosen1

join:2001-08-05
Orange Park, FL

Bring it on!

I'd welcome one in my yard. Free paintball target PLUS super short copper loop PLUS that much less yard to cut. Sign me up! Bunch of spoiled brats worried about a box in their yard. Maybe I should move there and make my new whining neighbors paintball targets too.

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Alex G Bell

join:2002-07-02
Boston, MA
Boxed?

These people should have to deal with telephone poles!


batageek
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reply to russotto
Re: It's not the boxes...

For the record, this issue has never been about franchise fees. AT&T has no problem paying a comparable fee - they just won't sign anything called a "franchise."

The main issue is that AT&T refuses to accept that their video service should be treated like a traditional cable service and will not agree to serve all areas of a city equally (as cable providers are required to do as part of their franchise agreements).
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pnh102
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Mount Airy, MD
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 reply to ronpin
Re: They only do what the NSA tells 'em to...

said by ronpin See Profile :

So how could it be their fault?
Yes, you are right. All of the people of Irvine, CA, who oppose cell phone towers actually work for the NSA. The NSA of course, overruled the FCC when it came to putting up a cell phone tower in their town.

*Slaps head*
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tkdslr

join:2004-04-24
Pompano Beach, FL
·Speakeasy


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Those are NOT comon carrier facilities..

And should NOT have any access without negotiation(payments) for usage of public property. (The standard is even higher for private property.. )

1st and foremost..
The upgrades are NOT necessary in order to provide phone service. Any upgrades are for OTHER non-public purposes.

Now.. If AT&T decides to unbundle on a non-discriminatory basis and allow other ISP's access, they might regain their common carrier status.


CCNnorthcali

join:2004-03-07
Tempe, AZ
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They are ugly...

Those boxes are not very pleasing to the eye, I can see why they have a problem. Wouldn't want it in my front yard. Not to say I wouldn't want the service...


richardpor
Fur it up

join:2003-04-19
Portland, OR

The price of technoligy advance.

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

God lord it just a few boxes. No body world be complaining if it was a few extra stop lights. The boxes used are the same size.

Let us not forget this is Geneva, Illinois. This is the same town wanted to build their own Muni wireless system. Now tell me how many "unsightly” boxes would need to be put up for that. The whole issue is just politics, only muni wireless buys political power and votes, and franchise is just another word for shakedown.
Geneva, Illinois is just carrying out Chicago-land’s fine tradition of political corruption.


ronpin
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Nirvana
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reply to pnh102
Re: They only do what the NSA tells 'em to...

As a shill for the 30% Fascist crowd -- your pretty good. Rule #1 -- always cast doubt on others by turning their point into a joke. Too bad you guys have already shot-yer-wad -- 'cause your as good as any shill out there

I just wonder why the fascists don't think they will be subject to the fascists dictates they helped usher-in? Will the NSA delete your phone records -- because you contributed to the Right?
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CylonRed
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join:2000-07-06
Bloom County
This is great...

It is the "I WANT it" factor mixed with the ever so popular - "Not in my back/front yard"... love it and the stupidity that goes along with it...


pnh102
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Mount Airy, MD
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reply to ronpin
Re: They only do what the NSA tells 'em to...

said by ronpin See Profile :

Will the NSA delete your phone records -- because you contributed to the Right?
Absolutely. Also, when I flash my voter registration card at the gas pump, it takes $2 off of the price per gallon that I pay.
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