TKJunkMail
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|  If it can't survive w/o breaking law - good riddance
But it will survive, because Google will sign deals compensating music and movie and TV companies to keep their products online. And there will still be millions of people who will want to upload videos of their last cookout or birthday party
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z00medu
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tell me who DIDNT see this coming....... |
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Matt
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Re: If it can't survive w/o breaking law - good riddance
said by TKJunkMail  :But it will survive, because Google will sign deals compensating music and movie and TV companies to keep their products online. And there will still be millions of people who will want to upload videos of their last cookout or birthday party Yes, but will other people watch them? Probably not.
Less eyes means less advertising revenue. |
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r81984
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| Beginging of the end
The YouTube bubble is beginning to burst.
Also to all those copyright holders who bitch at YouTube for not doing enought to prevent copyrighted material, you are stupid and lazy. If its your copyright then its your reponsibility to stop others from using it. If your not willing to find your own copyrighted material on YouTube and tell YouTube to remove it then why should YouTube do it for you.
You Tube is not selling any content so there are no royalties to sue over, and if you cannot prove YouTube cost your company money in lost sales, then stop your bitching and be glad people want to actually watch your copyrighted material. |
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Jameson
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Re: figures......
bye bye youtube |
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Matt
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Re: Beginging of the end
said by r81984 :You Tube is not selling any content so there are no royalties to sue over, and if you cannot prove YouTube cost your company money in lost sales, then stop your bitching and be glad people want to actually watch your copyrighted material. No, but they are making money by people watching the copyrighted material via advertising. |
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r81984
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1 edit | reply to r81984
Also, there should be no way anyone can sue YouTube for money so they should never have to pay for settlements as long as they remove copyrighted material when requested.
Think about it, what stops a company from posting their copyrighted material on YouTube and then sueing YouTube for money.
The only person who should be sued is the person who uploaded the copyrighted material to YouTube. |
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dadkins
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Hercules, CA | reply to Matt
Ads? WTF are ads?
I don't see ads here... on either laptop.  |
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CPM
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Miami, FL | Well nice to know your You Tube.
Well, It was nice to know you You Tube. But, we have to depart our ways.
It is not you. It is me. |
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r81984
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Re: Beginging of the end
Think about this,
If someone creates a normal public road, and people one night a week start street racing on that road. Advertisers notice this increase in people coming to watch the illegal activity and start putting billboards on the land next to the road owned by the road builders. The road builders are now making money off of the illegal activity taking place on the road they built.
Should the road builders be responsible for the illegal activity that takes place on their road which they are making money off of with billboards or should it be up to a third party to stop the illegal activity, like the police? |
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napsterization
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| Its tha Napsterization of YouTube
Now with the napsterization of youtube, where will people go to get these videos? Back to p2p, or maybe a "bust-out" section of thepiratebay.org for video alone?!?
Who knows, but do you hear that sucking sound?
I sure hope the guys that got 1.65 billion in stock start cashing out of google, 'cause the value in youtube is going down the tube!!! |
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ke4pym
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Charlotte, NC | R.I.P. YouTube
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IronChefMoto
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1 edit | No more catching South Park at work
I run dual monitors at work -- design/development job. I would find a South Park episode I missed the night before and catch it on YouTube on the 2nd monitor while I worked. Did this for several things that I might've missed the night before or heard about from co-workers. Maybe something that TiVO or Comcast PVR goofed up (by cutting off early).
Hell -- it was good to watch while eating lunch at my desk.
Guess I won't be doing that anymore. Damn -- now I have to find a way to concentrate on my work WITHOUT Cartman entertaining me on screen #2.
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Jason Levine
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Re: If it can't survive w/o breaking law - good riddance
I read a post somewhere (probably on Slashdot) hypothesising that Google might make deals with the content owners to upload clips legally for promotional purposes with an option to buy. YouTube and Google already have great name recognition. Imagine if you could see a music video on YouTube (compressed for the web, of course) and then click on a link to buy the DVD of the video, or the CD of the album. Or, imagine being able to see a small scene of a movie on YouTube and then having a link to click for the movie.
Perhaps the music industry could even legitimize the fan made music videos that exist on YouTube by getting Google to put up "Buy This Song" links to Amazon, iTunes, Napster, wherever. This way, fans could still be creative with the music and the recording industry would get some money flow from it. The music industry could think of it as free promotion of the songs instead of thinking of it as piracy. |
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cableties
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Re: Beginging of the end
Huh?
The advertisers are making the money, unless the road builders owned the land they put the signs on. Then they would lease the land to the advertisers. But who funds the enforcers? We do. In taxes.
Next.
I see this as the old "Let the fans be our marketing". Everyone wins. The content, the artist, the industry, the web and the fans. Only ones not winning is the chump who said "buying YouTube...". |
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Primis1
join:2005-06-13
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| Easy Answers
"once you pull all the material from YouTube that falls under copyrights not covered by the company's distribution deals, is the site still interesting?"
No
"Can it survive lawsuits?"
No
"Can it profit?"
Ummmmm, no.
"Will incorporated ads be annoying?"
Durrrrr, I'm going to take a wild stab and say "yes".
I like how nobody ever pays attention to history anymore and just assuses that THEIR company or favored company is going to somehow be the exception... |
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pik45612
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the jap clips are most of the funnys and crazy things on youtube. not to mention Jap babes |
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Mr Anon
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| I think something is missing here.
Those questions although good I think is missing something. What is google ultimately going to do with YouTube? We all know google had a flash based video service and that they are building out a huge network for their traffic as well as other things.
So why does google need YouTube? Specificially what is there that they can not duplicate or best?
Without knowing G's ultimate plan for the site these changes however drastic or not is like asking why plumbing is being put into a room when the whole building is being renovated.
Lastly why is no on covering whats happening with FreeDB? |
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| said by Mr Anon :
Those questions although good I think is missing something. What is google ultimately going to do with YouTube? We all know google had a flash based video service and that they are building out a huge network for their traffic as well as other things.
They need it because google has managed to build everything well so far except community. They bought the conversation. I wonder if they can keep it. |
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Telly Boot
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Marge, don't tell me it's losing all worthwhile content and is completely worthless....Doh! I knew I shouldn't have spent $1.6 Billion on it. Just as well I used these lousy Google shares to buy it. [Sounds like a Simpson's episode?]
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