Some Poster
@verizon.net
| The fact that it's news is very telling
"despite the fact that deployments never seem to significantly increase" Heh heh heh. Yep, it's very telling that this is considered newsworthy at all. When's the last time you read a headline to the effect of, "DSL deployed in nine apartment complexes in the Washington, DC area"? Not any time recently at least, because it just isn't news.
BPL, on the other hand, is still a novelty because (as best I can tell) it's never been successfully / profitably deployed on a large scale. Like the hot air balloon idea, it seems more of a conceptual oddity than a practical means of providing broadband. |
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Siryak
join:2005-11-26
 ·WildBlue
| said by Some Poster :
BPL, on the other hand, is still a novelty because (as best I can tell) it's never been successfully / profitably deployed on a large scale. Like the hot air balloon idea, it seems more of a conceptual oddity than a practical means of providing broadband.
Actually I did a little research on the hot air balloon and I must say it looks promising. A very large very sturdy GPS guided balloon that travels high up in the air with low wind turbulence and some sonar panels, can serve internet, cellular service, tv, etc. It only needs to come down like once every 15 months for refurbishing. Personally I think that these things will replace it all one day.
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aaron12345
join:2002-12-17
Falls Church, VA
| dc area
BPL in the DC area... now that's stupid. In DC and surrounding counties here's our broadband choices:
DSL from Verizon, Covad and pretty much every CLEC, with a majority of people in range and Verizon DSL starting from $17/month.
Cable universely, in many areas 2 providers, the "local" provider (Cox, Comcast) and an overbuilder (RCN).
Verizon FiOS in alot of the metro areas surrounding DC (NOVA, Montgomery Cty etc)
So why would anyone want BPL? |
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W1RFI
join:2003-05-12
Burlington, CT
| The BPL being proposed here is in-premise BPL. A broadband backbone is brought to a building, then the Telkonet modems are used to transmit the signal inside the building, using the building's electrical wiring. For older buildings, especially, this can be a more economical alternative to running new wire.
It would be possible to do the same using the building's telephone wiring, but the telephone wiring does not run to every room in the building.
Because the Amateur Radio interference issue comes up in every discussion about BPL, it seems, I will add that the Telkonet system uses HomePlug technology, which has, by that industry's decision, turned off all of the OFDM carriers in the Amateur bands.
With about 6 million HomePlug devices deployed, I have not heard of interference reports involving Amateur Radio.
Ed Hare, W1RFI@arrl.org
ARRL Lab
225 Main St
Newington, CT 06111
Tel: 860-594-0318 |
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rachelsfx
join:2004-09-27
Pensacola, FL
| reply to Siryak
Re: The fact that it's news is very telling
said by Siryak  :said by Some Poster :
BPL, on the other hand, is still a novelty because (as best I can tell) it's never been successfully / profitably deployed on a large scale. Like the hot air balloon idea, it seems more of a conceptual oddity than a practical means of providing broadband.
Actually I did a little research on the hot air balloon and I must say it looks promising. A very large very sturdy GPS guided balloon that travels high up in the air with low wind turbulence and some sonar panels, can serve internet, cellular service, tv, etc. It only needs to come down like once every 15 months for refurbishing. Personally I think that these things will replace it all one day. I wonder how much HOT AIR is powering this ridiculous idea? Earthlink has enough problems without trying something as stupid as this. |
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MGP
join:2001-01-01
Olathe, KS
| More Investments with No Chance for Success
Wow, Earthlink is really grasping at straws now while the ship keeps sinking.
I can't believe they can't see this technology was stillborn and no trial rollout of it was ever more than slightly successful.
Stockholders should love pouring more corporate dollars down a black hole from which there is no return. It reminds me of a guy on a losing streak in Vegas who keeps playing because "sooner or later I'm gonna hit a big one!" |
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Siryak
join:2005-11-26
·WildBlue
| reply to rachelsfx
Re: The fact that it's news is very telling
said by rachelsfx :said by Siryak :said by Some Poster :
BPL, on the other hand, is still a novelty because (as best I can tell) it's never been successfully / profitably deployed on a large scale. Like the hot air balloon idea, it seems more of a conceptual oddity than a practical means of providing broadband.
Actually I did a little research on the hot air balloon and I must say it looks promising. A very large very sturdy GPS guided balloon that travels high up in the air with low wind turbulence and some sonar panels, can serve internet, cellular service, tv, etc. It only needs to come down like once every 15 months for refurbishing. Personally I think that these things will replace it all one day. I wonder how much HOT AIR is powering this ridiculous idea? Earthlink has enough problems without trying something as stupid as this. I would not knock those hot air balloons until I did my research. I read every page there is to read and I can not see one possible reason why these would not work. They aren't sending up a little wimpy Good Year blimp. This is reinforced heavy duty hot air balloons with solar panels and a GPS system. Also they will be at 65,000 where the air movement is minuscule. The GPS system on board will keep the balloon where it is supposed to be. Then at the 15 month mark they simple give it the command to return and it will guide itself directly back to them for refurbishing. The change out some stuff and send it back in the air. Also since they aren't very high in there air unlike a geosynchronous satellite there is very little latency. From what I read your regular ole wireless laptop card would be able to pick up the signal anywhere. It would be a completely portable Internet, Cell Phone, and TV. Just imagine having a Cell phone provide with 0 dead spots anywhere in the world. Also you could get the same speeds you get at home on the road. Then there is mobile TV as well. The possibilitys are endless.
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thender2
Glamour Profession
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join:2004-05-16
Staten Island, NY
| reply to Siryak
said by Siryak :said by Some Poster :
BPL, on the other hand, is still a novelty because (as best I can tell) it's never been successfully / profitably deployed on a large scale. Like the hot air balloon idea, it seems more of a conceptual oddity than a practical means of providing broadband.
Actually I did a little research on the hot air balloon and I must say it looks promising. A very large very sturdy GPS guided balloon that travels high up in the air with low wind turbulence and some sonar panels, can serve internet, cellular service, tv, etc. It only needs to come down like once every 15 months for refurbishing. Personally I think that these things will replace it all one day. Yeah, until some whackjob decides to fuck with a 10-20 mile radius community by shooting the balloon down.
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Siryak
join:2005-11-26
·WildBlue
| said by thender2 :said by Siryak :said by Some Poster :
BPL, on the other hand, is still a novelty because (as best I can tell) it's never been successfully / profitably deployed on a large scale. Like the hot air balloon idea, it seems more of a conceptual oddity than a practical means of providing broadband.
Actually I did a little research on the hot air balloon and I must say it looks promising. A very large very sturdy GPS guided balloon that travels high up in the air with low wind turbulence and some sonar panels, can serve internet, cellular service, tv, etc. It only needs to come down like once every 15 months for refurbishing. Personally I think that these things will replace it all one day. Yeah, until some whackjob decides to fuck with a 10-20 mile radius community by shooting the balloon down. It would be much too high for you too even see it. Plus they will have backups in place in case of a failure of any kind. Like they will have more than 1 balloon covering 1 area.
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EvilMoose
join:2003-02-26
Urbana, IL | So true.
Yea... my Power Company has BPL up and running great... for remotely monitoring our meters so they can be more lazy! |
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Some Poster
@verizon.net
| reply to Siryak
Re: The fact that it's news is very telling
"I would not knock those hot air balloons until I did my research." I have done my research and I'm still knocking the idea. If you think it's such a great concept, can you provide a credible explanation why (like BPL) the balloon idea isn't implemented (or even being pursued) on a large scale?
"Just imagine having a Cell phone provide [sic] with 0 dead spots anywhere in the world." I don't have to imagine it; it's called Iridium, it already exists »www.iridium.com, and to coin a phrase, maybe you should "do your research" next time. |
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