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Banks, OR | Good for him Now I only hope he can (literally) keep his head about the whole thing ... | |
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 |  HarleyYacYacoPremium
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kudos:1 | Re: Good for him You beat me too it . They shall behead them at dawn  | |
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League City, TX |  Seperate from the rest of the world!
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|  LuwigiePremium
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East Lansing, MI | Re: Seperate from the rest of the world! Doesn't seem to makes sense to me... You can see information about other countries and realize that yours sucks at 128 kbps, or 16 KB/s. I guess I don't understand the thinking behind this.
Shoot, some of us in the US still don't have that fast of an option =) | |
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1 edit | Re: Seperate from the rest of the world! On one level it's about morality, according to the norms in Iran. Narrowband-only makes it a little harder for Western culture to influence the population (fewer images with the text, less music and movies). They've started enforcing the longstanding ban on satellite dishes too, which used to be very lax.
But it's really about maintaining the power of the clerics who control the government. There's a system of religious councils or something similar, parallel to the formal government, which more or less dictates domestic policy. But the younger generation want more freedom, in male/female relations and other areas. There was a trend to liberalization before the US started threatening Iran. Now it's going more conservative again.
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| Re: Seperate from the rest of the world! I agree with your points of view. Even their El Presidente doesn't utter a syllable that isn't preapproved by their Mullas.
You want to see what the internet will do to their country, just look at China. If I were trying to bring down a massive dam, a crack would do, if I'm patient.
Over here we take the internet so for granted. Over there, the internet is the voice of democracy. And that voice is a megaphone. Its the proverbial 800 lb gorilla in the room. | |
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|  Marduk
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West Chester, PA | said by MysticGogeta:We don't want our citizens getting the idea our Government sucks, then they might over throw us.. LOL, I figured that out with a 1200 baud modem in the 80's  | |
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| | | | Re: Seperate from the rest of the world! said by Marduk:said by MysticGogeta:We don't want our citizens getting the idea our Government sucks, then they might over throw us.. LOL, I figured that out with a 1200 baud modem in the 80's I figured it out before modems, when Jimmy Carter was in office. I was so excited to see him elected, then WHAM! sucker punch to the gut.
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| | | Hey, if Iran could just divert some of the money they're spending on uranium processing and buy some high-bandwidth backbone links instead..... | |
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| |  Arash Naderpour stoned to death ..........
"They cannot force us to stop it, they cannot check each one of the ports in the country," says Arash Naderpour, the CEO of Iranian ISP CTEL Kish. Naderpour states he believes the government's position may have more to do with capacity than politics. If Arash Naderpour isn't real careful about speaking out, he may never be heard from again. The clerical leadership in Iran are not known for their grudging acceptance of those who fight them.
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|  ThirdShifterPremium
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kudos:1 | Re: Arash Naderpour stoned to death .......... Iranians have more revolution blood in them than us Americans do, nowdays anyways. Even with a gun on their head they will do what the hell they want.
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| kcir
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Butner, NC | I wonder where they get access from for their broadband to the reset of the world? Are there just a few choke points? Could the government take them over and slow packets down? There is satellite but I doubt they really have access to that. | |
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Savannah, GA | Re: Arash Naderpour stoned to death .......... said by kcir:There is satellite but I doubt they really have access to that. Yes they do »www.arabsat.com/ | |
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|  wifi4milezBig Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
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New York, NY | said by fAcEtIOUs:......... "They cannot force us to stop it, they cannot check each one of the ports in the country," says Arash Naderpour, the CEO of Iranian ISP CTEL Kish. Naderpour states he believes the government's position may have more to do with capacity than politics. If Arash Naderpour isn't real careful about speaking out, he may never be heard from again. The clerical leadership in Iran are not known for their grudging acceptance of those who fight them. What, does he think that he lives in AMERICA or something?? I bet people like him laugh (their "heads off") when they hear about how the government "oppresses" us over here. Its almost good that places like Iran still exist, so that whenever the socialist pinkos on this site whine about lack of freedoms we can simply point to Iran and tell them to shut up.
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Saint Paul, MN | Re: Arash Naderpour stoned to death .......... Its almost good that places like Iran still exist, so that whenever the socialist pinkos on this site whine about lack of freedoms we can simply point to Iran and tell them to shut up. Terrible way to look at things.
If someone shoots both of some guys arms off and then just takes off one of your arms. You shouldn't complain because you still have your other arm. No?
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| | | wifi4milezBig Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
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New York, NY | Re: Arash Naderpour stoned to death .......... said by Chuckles:Its almost good that places like Iran still exist, so that whenever the socialist pinkos on this site whine about lack of freedoms we can simply point to Iran and tell them to shut up. Terrible way to look at things. If someone shoots both of some guys arms off and then just takes off one of your arms. You shouldn't complain because you still have your other arm. No? Ummm, actually YES you would NOT complain. IF, a situation like that did occur you would probably be ecstatic that you weren't killed, never-mind that you lost an arm. And you thought my analogy was terrible????
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| | | | | | Re: Arash Naderpour stoned to death .......... Bah, another sellout to the establishment. The fact that your ARM was taken is the problem. It's like your right to privacy, and your precious civil liberties which have been trampled on by the bush regime. The fact that you lost only 'one' arm doesn't make the fact that you lost AN arm any less horrifying. It's when the neo-con right wing whacko republicans keep trampling on your civil rights that the problem exists. The correct solution to the problem is to not stand for ANY encroachment on your rights. The right to speak freely, the right to bear arms, the right to be secure in your homes. All of those rights are being sold out to the megacorps and the fascist republican scum currently in control. I for one, will celebrate on November 8th, when the republican party is trounced once and for all, and we can get our civil liberties BACK from the nazi bush third reich.
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kudos:1 | Re: Arash Naderpour stoned to death .......... Hey, another "Bush regime" post from karlmarx.
Anyone surprised?
The one trick pony of BBR, for all to see.... | |
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Bush Derangement Syndrome: the acute onset of paranoia in otherwise normal people in reaction to the policies, the presidency -- nay -- the very existence of George W. Bush.
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FrontPage magazine.com :: Bush Derangement Syndrome by Charles Krauthammer | |
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Monmouth Junction, NJ | Re: Arash Naderpour stoned to death .......... ROFL that comment just made my week! =)
Thanks Chillax!
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Wichita, KS | Pathetic. Just pathetic. Hey Karl. When will you leave mommy and daddies basement?
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| | | | | | | You forgot the moron Christian conservative racists (sarcasm)...you're the epitome of a bigot karl, like most liberals. Get a life, and a grip on reality.
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| | | | | | | Yeah... I'll bet the leftists who get in office on November 8 will really protect the second amendment and religious freedom. | |
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1 edit | Re: Arash Naderpour stoned to death .......... Some of us do . | |
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| | | | Its almost good that places like Iran still exist
Almost............  | |
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| | Bandwidth what happens when they need to upgrade there backbones  I wonder if theyll be smuggling in Vsats to get the bandwidth but with the price of latency. | |
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| | the test This will be a real test of the Iranian government's domestic view. On one hand, the government cannot avoid a scandal if they do act (which would keep them from acting, one would think). Conversely, if they do not act, they will have a very difficult time monitoring traffic and limiting the spread of Internet video pornography (bring them the revolution).
I find it somewhat amusing (and refreshing) that the thing that could potentially bring down theocracies is online porno. | |
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The clerics dont care about scandals. They have the power, bottom line, unless the people rise against them. The Iranian people have a robust black market for tech goods like satellite gear and shortwave radio and. have had it for years now. They are not stupid, nor are they gulled by their government.
All the ones I have spoken with and known have been well educated people trying to get ahead and feed their families, just like everyone else.
Sooner or later, the Mullahs will be overthrown. It's inevitable. The Iranian people hate them with a passion which usually leads to revolution. They rue the day they overthrew the Shah and have for a long time. | |
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| |  IgnitePremium,VIP
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UK | Re: the test Speaking to an Iranian he informs a big reason for the Mullahs still being in power is a certain country's leader labelling Iran as part of the 'Axis of Evil'.
When someone threatens your country it tends to bring people together, not to defend their government, but their country even if they hate the people who run it. | |
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Spring Valley, CA
1 edit | i wonder when karlmarx is to tell us that the 'bush regime's' right-wing, fundamentalist christian, nazi militant, anti-abortion, theo-con, neo-con policies have unduly influenced the the holy iranians to institute 128k broadband on all of their citizens, so they don't receive the daily indoctrination of the 'bush regime's' right-wing, fundamentalist christian, nazi militant, anti-abortion, theo-con, neo-con puppet policies. | |
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KyeU
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Canada | ... Oddly this reminds me of their president who won't stop enriching uranium... | |
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| | Brave I can only hope some of our country's ISPs will defy our government should they make retarded laws similar to the one in Iran. Of course, a stupid law I could see in the US would be one that outlaws encryption such as TOR or outlaws the use of proxies. All in the name of stopping pervs and terrorists. | |
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| | | Re: Brave quote:
Of course, a stupid law I could see in the US would be one that outlaws encryption
So you aren't old enough to remember the V-Chip? The federal suit against PGP?
Lol... We already did that exercise and that cat is long out of the bag. | |
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kudos:1 | cool go braze ISP's! | |
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Houston, TX
1 edit | It could be worse ... You could live in North Korea where only Kim Jong-il gets to view online pr0n. At least the common DPRK'ers aren't paranoid that their country is about to be invaded by the "imperialist empire".
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| | | Re: It could be worse ... Or it could be even worse than that ... Hillary could win in 2008 and gay KarlMarx could be vice president.
P0rn sucks at 128 ... | |
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|  RobIn Deo speramus, God Bless the USAPremium
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Kendall, FL
kudos:2 | said by pmizelll:You could live in North Korea where only Kim Jong-il gets to view online pr0n. At least the common DPRK'ers aren't paranoid that their country is about to be invaded by the "imperialist empire". Wrong! You can watch pr0n, but it's of Kim Jong-il
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| | umm... Um, these guys should have seriously stuck to Zoroastrianism. When was the last time you heard anyone complain about misguided Zoroastrian fundamentalism?
Think about it.  | |
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| | | Re: umm... I tip my hat to the courage of the Iranian ISPs who have resolved their doubts in favor of internet access to the people. I think the Government's clamp down on access to foreign information sources might have something to do with the growing unpopularity of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
Iran has a major election coming up. President Ahmadinejad is less certain of a victory than before. Many Iranians are upset with his actions. I suspect that the ban on high speed internet is meant to stop people from listening to and watching foreign feeds. Remember that they have just cracked down on Satelite TV.
Attached is a recent analysis of the situation published in the Gulf News, a Dubai based paper. Dubai is geographically very close to Iran and keeps a careful eye on what is going on there.
»www.gulfnews.com/opinion/columns···934.html
What is particularly unnerving is their predictions that Iran will attempt to foment further tensions in the region by: (a) reigniting the Israeli/Lebanese war; (b) pumping more weapons into Iran or Afghanistan; and/or, (c) staging a coup in Lebanon to put it under Hezballah control. As to the last comment, I would also note that the same paper reported massive weapon smuggling from Syria to Hezballah controlled factions in Lebanon.*
There is nothing more dangerous than a cornered animal and I think this animal might be feeling a little cornered. I suspect that the Gulf News is correct that the current leadership of Iran will attept to divert the public attention from their failures and they are trying to limit the access to foreign media sources which will call them out for this.
Just my two pence.
Stu
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*While I have never completely understood the strange alliance between Seculiar Syria and Islamic Iran, it seems pretty hard to deny its existence at this point. | |
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