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Comments on news posted 2006-11-01 10:49:22: Last weekend we pointed out that Comedy Central/Viacom lawyers had begun demanding that YouTube pull clips from their series "The Daily Show" and "The Colbert Report". ..

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cableties
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Someone actually makes sen$e?

The success of YouTube is that it is a marketing vessel, via viral-social-tribal distribution.

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said by cableties See Profile :

The success of YouTube is that it is a marketing vessel, via viral-social-tribal distribution.
And as long as Viacom gets their piece of the action, everyone will be happy.
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swhx7
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You guys are right about the marketing value - and maybe this deal is a sign that the "content" companies are beginning to figure this out.


Raptor
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Impressed

Nothing more to say about that. Leave it to Comedy Central to get it. And in about a week too.
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Re: Someone actually makes sen$e?

In my opinion, it's Viacom that should be paying YouTube. It's free marketing now, then they bitched about it. YouTube is not going to go under losing the daily show clips, but the daily show might fail without YouTube.
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said by MAR_03_2002 See Profile :

said by cableties See Profile :

The success of YouTube is that it is a marketing vessel, via viral-social-tribal distribution.
And as long as Viacom gets their piece of the action, everyone will be happy.
But in a way, wasn't Viacom already getting "a piece of the action" as a result of more people watching the Daily Show and Colbert Report because they were on YouTube?
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What about

...the crappy quality of the videos on Youtube?

Someone ought to set some standards for the quality allowed!

I swear, people are only seeing that videos are avalable, overlooking the fact that they are virtually unwatchable.

I hate when the masses settle for something and suppliers see that as the norm - then that's all *we* get.
This applies to most things we all use, but Youtube for the sake of this news item.

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rachelsfx

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Re: Someone actually makes sen$e?

After thinking about, we decided, uhmmm, YouTube viewers shouldn't be deprived of me and Steven Colbert.

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"I didn't even have anything to do with it."

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(I wanted to get mooo-laaa!)

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YouTube is not going to go under losing the daily show clips, but the daily show might fail without YouTube.
The Daily show was doing fine before youtube. The Colbert Report is going to do well because it's associated with the Daily Show. I seriously doubt youtube is responsible for their success.
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Re: What about

said by dadkins See Profile :

...the crappy quality of the videos on Youtube?

Someone ought to set some standards for the quality allowed!

I swear, people are only seeing that videos are avalable, overlooking the fact that they are virtually unwatchable.

I hate when the masses settle for something and suppliers see that as the norm - then that's all *we* get.
This applies to most things we all use, but Youtube for the sake of this news item.

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Maxo
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Still there

The clips I uploaded never left.

ub355

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reply to dadkins
Re: What about

Considering the content, why waste bandwidth ?


rachelsfx

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Re: Still there

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said by dadkins See Profile :

What about the crappy quality of the videos on Youtube?
[/rant]

This complaint misses the whole "marketing" concept. They want to give just enough to get you to watch the actual show. The quality and length are enough for jokes but not enough to substitute for the show.

I wish the music companies would get the same idea: give away mp3s of a certain bit-rate and people would use them to decide what they like, and then would buy the full quality versions of some of them. I mean, p2p users already do the "try before you buy" thing, but because it's illegal they might as well get high quality in the first place and use it as a substitute for the CD rather than just graze. The music companies are missing a big marketing opportunity. They could quit paying Clear Channel too.

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said by Combat Chuck See Profile :

I seriously doubt youtube is responsible for their success.
Well, it certainly never hurt. I can't see how being promoted on YouTube did anything other than add to their success.

CSU

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stupid I say

How in the world can you deny free advertising?

Plldwnyrpnts

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reply to Combat Chuck
Re: Someone actually makes sen$e?

I don't watch either show, BUT, when I do see a clip on Youtube, I get the urge to watch (although I don't.) But the urge is there and that's where marketing starts.


rachelsfx

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Re: stupid I say

Considering Jon Stewart could care less, only the company did. Stewart kinda encouraged it anyway.

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Re: Someone actually makes sen$e?

said by Combat Chuck See Profile :

said by Camelot One See Profile :

YouTube is not going to go under losing the daily show clips, but the daily show might fail without YouTube.
The Daily show was doing fine before youtube. The Colbert Report is going to do well because it's associated with the Daily Show. I seriously doubt youtube is responsible for their success.
I can state that I watch Colbert and Steve Steward on TV cause of youtube.. I wasn't really into their shows until I saw some funny ass clips my friend sent me (which were on youtube)....


PolarBear
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Advertising

As long as you are not posting an entire song or episode of a show, with the low quality of vids on YouTube, anything posted is simply an advertisement. How can any company complain about free advertising? Like someone said above, Viacom should be paying YouTube for the advertising, just like they would have to pay another network to run one of their commercials on it.

In a very similar sense, I also agree wholeheartedly with the concept of giving away low-bitrate mp3s. Most of the reason I don't buy many CDs anymore is because I don't want to end up with a disc that has 13 tracks on it, 12 of which I don't like. With p2p, I can decide if I like something before I go blowing $15 on a crappy CD.
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