livininarizona
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join:2001-08-05
Merced, CA
clubs:   | YES!!
This is what we need! |
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jloor
join:2001-09-14
New Brunswick, NJ | Yes!
Now we have precident! |
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karlmarx
join:2006-09-18
iraq
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| This is a horror for the **AA's
For once, the FCC ruled correctly. The UNLICENSED spectrum is just that, unlicensed. The spectrum is free for anyone to use. Why is this a bad thing for the **AA's you ask? Because now, as a homeowner, you can always say 'someone was using my wireless'. This means the **AssAsses don't have a legal leg to stand on. If I get 'sued' by the **AA's, I just say I have a free wireless access point. And as the FCC clearly states, I, the landlord, have no responsibility if someone uses my open wireless hotspot to download movies, mp3's, software, etc. This is a GREAT ruling for all those who believe the internet should be free for all to use, as they see fit. This is a great ruling which will ultimately strike down the illegal TOS that the megacorps try and force people to agree to. If you pay for an internet connection, you have the RIGHT to use it ANY way you want to. This ruling just codifies that right.
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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Mount Airy, MD
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| said by karlmarx  :This is a great ruling which will ultimately strike down the illegal TOS that the megacorps try and force people to agree to. Megacorps? The "megacorps" (being the airlines here) won a huge victory here! They are now able tell the eeeeeeeeevil government (Logan Airport) to go screw itself with regards to Wi-Fi regulation.
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quatrix
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join:2005-02-11
Davie, FL | reply to karlmarx
Are you that twisted? Since I pay for my car, do I have the right to run you over without any consequences? The FCC's ruling doesn't say you can steal music/movies or distribute child porn, but you conveniently interpreted it that way. |
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lkviewguy
join:2004-02-13
Chicago, IL | ok that was a really dumb remark, stay on topic dude.
Must be a republican |
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Dagda1175
join:2001-06-17
Goleta, CA | reply to karlmarx
Of course you also consider broadband access a utility. Im not going to pay for yours, sorry. step away from the government teat. |
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
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Re: YES!!
said by livininarizona :This is what we need! Puts some competition back in the airport and prevents the government organization regulating the airport(Massport) from holding up travelers with another onerous tax on many of the out of state residents who use the airport. Taxes on people who don't actually vote in a state is a favorite with politicians.
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N3OGH
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join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs
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Re: This is a horror for the **AA's
said by lkviewguy :ok that was a really dumb remark, stay on topic dude. Must be a republican Perhaps you should take your own advice.
Avoid really dumb remarks and stay on topic, since you saw fit to do neither, sir.
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Camelot One
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join:2001-11-21
Sarasota, FL
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| What does this mean for Universities?
There are currently several Universities that ban students from running wireless routers on campus. Does this ruling have any effect on them? They are the landlord of sorts, but also the service provider.
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TKJunkMail
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Avalon, NJ
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| said by Camelot One :There are currently several Universities that ban students from running wireless routers on campus. Does this ruling have any effect on them? They are the landlord of sorts, but also the service provider. Unless you sign some kind of lease for your room on campus, I doubt it will help you. Of course, you could sue in court. You and fellow students could pool your beer money and sue, but I doubt you'd win.
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thender2
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join:2004-05-16
Staten Island, NY
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Re: This is a horror for the **AA's
said by quatrix :Are you that twisted? Since I pay for my car, do I have the right to run you over without any consequences? The FCC's ruling doesn't say you can steal music/movies or distribute child porn, but you conveniently interpreted it that way. Putting downloading a few new tunes in the same category as downloading child porn is pushing it.
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StickyMU
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Re: What does this mean for Universities?
said by TCH :
You and fellow students could pool your beer money and sue, but I doubt you'd win.
This made me laugh.
I think the OP hit the nail on the head when stating that the University is also the service provider. They probably have an Internet policy very similar to the TOS from an ISP such as Comcast or Verizon. |
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Michieru2
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join:2005-01-28
Miami, FL
| reply to Camelot One
If there the ISP as well then they have legal authority to say what hardware you can use and in this case you can't use a wireless router. It's not a spectrum problem, it's an ISP problem and if they state that. You will lose and not only that but any lawyer would tell you that up front really. |
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claudeo
join:2000-02-23
Redmond, WA
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said by Camelot One :There are currently several Universities that ban students from running wireless routers on campus. Does this ruling have any effect on them? They are the landlord of sorts, but also the service provider. That seems to be a rather different situation, since the university is the service provider. At Logan, presumably the airline has its own ISP. But if a student gets broadband service from an outside provider and then runs a wireless router on that, the university cannot object. It can become a problem if the university cannot tell who the service provider is because the connection is encrypted; in that case the student might still be presumed guilty until proven innocent. |
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major marco
Res Firma Mitescere Nescit
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join:2003-02-13
Stepford, CA
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| Oorah for the FCC
You won't hear that very often from me, but this bait-and-switch money grab by Logan Airport mimics almost perfectly the recent online gambling ban. It was all about the money, so the first and most important thing that the politicians absolutely had to do was insist repeatedly that it wasn't about the money. So they invented not only false but patently absurd alternative excuses about — what else? — "risks."
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join:2006-10-24
Chicago, IL
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Re: What does this mean for Universities?
This ruling means that the student cannot be prohibited from having and running a wireless router, but it has nothing to say about whether it can be connected to anything. The university can and might very well prohibit you from connecting that wireless router to their network, and the FCC is fine with that.
You can be sure that it would take about a second to detect. |
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jtel
join:2005-06-28
Bristol, RI
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Re: YES!!
Not sure here but I doubt Massport is done with this and I doubt the FCC is the last legal resort in regards to 'lease agreements'.
From the Boston Globe:
"Massport argued that Continental's free service would interfere with its network, raise safety concerns and violate lease agreements." |
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karlmarx
join:2006-09-18
iraq
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"Taxes on people who don't actually vote in a state is a favorite with politicians."
Umm, what 'taxes' are you talking about. This is a ruling that states the unlicensed spectrum is just that, unlicensed. The ruling has NOTHING to do with taxes, or fees, or 'homeland security'. The ruling just codifies the right of any user to use any 'unlicensed' spectrum, wherever they may be.
As usual, you attempt to obfuscate the issue by declaring it a 'tax issue', when in reality it's nothing of the sort.
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
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Re: What does this mean for Universities?
said by Camelot One :There are currently several Universities that ban students from running wireless routers on campus. Does this ruling have any effect on them? They are the landlord of sorts, but also the service provider. If they run wireless routers using the University's network, then the school does have authority to ban them.
HOWEVER, if the students have their own network (not connected to the university system at all), then the school has no say. |
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