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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
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|  Look forward to getting Fios in my area
However it was accomplished, if it gets Fios and Fios TV rolled out to my area, I'm all for it. It will be another welcome competitor to Comcast in NJ and will help keep prices in line as well as getting higher speeds available too.
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Daniel8802
join:2004-07-09
Sewell, NJ
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I say bring on the fios!  |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
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| A First
NJ does something right? I'm shocked, SHOCKED!
I hope other states see the merit in getting out of the way of progress as NJ has done. Given some time, there are going to be a lot of happy people with FIOS, as well as a lot of happy people with better quality cable service as a result of competing with FIOS.
Other states need to get with the program.
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ieolus
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join:2001-06-19
Duluth, GA | Blackmail
Hurray! A win for corporate blackmail! Congrats Verizon...
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Daniel8802
join:2004-07-09
Sewell, NJ
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Re: A First
How does verizon fios ondemand rate up to comcasts? Does anyone know? Also, what guide are they using?
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yock
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join:2000-11-21
Fairfield, OH
| reply to ieolus
Re: Blackmail
said by ieolus  :Hurray! A win for corporate blackmail! Congrats Verizon... It isn't blackmail. Verizon told NJ that if they wanted something bad enough, they'd create an environment in which Verizon could flourish. Now Verizon is employing thousands of people in NJ and will be providing a valuable service to millions of people.
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zer0future
join:2005-09-14
Jersey City, NJ | I really hope they get fios out soon in NJ, comcast is pretty decent but their prices are on the high side. |
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morbo
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join:2002-01-22
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yes, that's blackmail. |
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DaveNJ
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join:1999-09-01
New Jersey | reply to ieolus
Well if Verizon is going to raise rates again, cable is still cheaper. So maybe Verizon will raise rates so high that no one can use them. Then competitors will just undercut Verizon all the way. hmm Wimax ? |
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dogo88
join:2001-09-24
Old Bridge, NJ
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Wrong. It's called negotiating. If you want me to do something and I don't like the current status, I'll tell you what I want. If you don't want to do it, then get somebody else. Verizon does not have to offer fiber. Anybody else can come in and build their own network and sell access. |
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TKadlec
join:2000-04-25
Trenton, NJ
| reply to morbo
Actually, it's not. Blackmail involves extorting money for the promise not to make injurious revelations or accusations. More like extortion, although that, too, is a stretch.
Like it or not, Verizon is entitled to decide where and where not to provide FIOS service. They decided to disclose the reasons for not deploying the service. NJ was free to decide whether or not to respond. Neither party is under any obligation to the other. |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast
| reply to Daniel8802
Re: A First
said by Daniel8802 :How does verizon fios ondemand rate up to comcasts? I have no idea dude... I cannot yet get FIOS 
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ieolus
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join:2001-06-19
Duluth, GA | reply to TKadlec
Re: Blackmail --> Extortion
Fine, extortion it is. |
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dogo88
join:2001-09-24
Old Bridge, NJ
| Wrong again. Extortion implies you really don't have any other choice. Like you said
"Like it or not, Verizon is entitled to decide where and where not to provide FIOS service. They decided to disclose the reasons for not deploying the service. NJ was free to decide whether or not to respond. Neither party is under any obligation to the other."
They indicated what they wanted and the State responded. |
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gateguy
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join:2001-02-12
Reisterstown, MD | reply to pnh102
Re: A First
Maryland's state legislators should observe what is happening in NJ.
But that would get in their way of gouging the people.
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morbo
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Re: Blackmail --> Extortion
it actually is more like blackmail than extortion or negotiating, so you were wrong to suggest that it wasn't.
Verizon/telco current positions are those of power. they are abusing it and this is yet another reason they should be stripped of owning the infrastructure. |
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pnh102
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
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| said by morbo :Verizon/telco current positions are those of power. they are abusing it and this is yet another reason they should be stripped of owning the infrastructure. And then you don't get your FIOS.
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morbo
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hence, blackmail. |
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dogo88
join:2001-09-24
Old Bridge, NJ
| reply to pnh102
Exactly.
I continue to be amazed that there are folks here who continually equate big to terrible/overpriced/bad and small to good/friendly/good bargain.
Verizon has a product. You don't want to pay for it(or establish an environment where they want to participate), then go somewhere else. They built the infrastructure. And yeah, I know we gave it to them for free. (you can use that same argument for AIDS research and most every other large product). So, go out and build your own infrastructure, make sure it's good, available everywhere, cheaply priced and above all has excellent customer service. Otherwise we all here will complain about every thing we can find wrong about it.
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wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY
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| reply to ieolus
said by ieolus :Fine, extortion it is. Nope, its called a sound business model. Any company can come in and so the same thing. Unfortunately, all the CLEC's want to do is sit around and wait for the government to force Verizon to give them access. THAT is a terrible business model, and there is a reason why the 99% of the CLEC's went under.
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