mesmerMAN
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Miami, FL | This is the start of a series of headaches for Big Business
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bigjimc
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Middleboro, MA | Ding dong the witch is dead
Well it really remains to be seen.
The merger will go through but with which concessions and how much contributions to congressional PACs.
Maybe they can share their Tubes?
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tmc8080
join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY
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AT&T might have to eat crow to merge!
The global deathstar at&t won't be able to gobble up an RBOC without a commitment to REAL broadband deployment... not the string and cup version (picture kids talking by string and cups) of dsl.. (now imagine sending 10megapixel uncompressed pictures of your children via crappy dsl upstream speeds)
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DaBavarian
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Re: This is the start of a series of headaches for Big Business
Followed by high taxes. You would think with San Fran Values applied Democrats would be more involved in promoting broadband and deployment. Deployment is only going to happen by the means of big business to make it happen with private investment. Maybe there will be a welfare system established broadband now and free computers for all the public funded wifi. |
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| said by DaBavarian  : Deployment is only going to happen by the means of big business to make it happen with private investment. What does that even mean?
Are you suggesting the only way for consumers to have broadband available is to depend on private enterprise?
If so, doesn't that completely ignore (and thus become invalid) the multiple muni efforts currently established or under development?
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Re: Ding dong the witch is dead
The Dems don't take over new posts until January, so power doesn't change until then. Look for FCC to allow the 3rd Republican to vote on merger before then after ruling from FCC General Counsel. Merger will be approved before new Congress sits in January.
Of course, lawsuits will follow soon after approval.
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Alpine
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If the FCC will be required to follow this. I think it was just a request, rather than an order (which I'm not sure they can do.)
Could the FCC push it through? Considering the bipartisan support it has I wouldn't be surprised.
Otherwise, let the pandering and obstruction begin...
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Re: This is the start of a series of headaches for Big Business
said by DaBavarian :Deployment is only going to happen by the means of big business to make it happen with private investment. Broadband deployment will happen as companies think it is profitable. If they think deploying technology X at location Y will be profitable they will do it. With the way things have been going competition will be nil and there will be little incentive for ISPs to expand as they won't be in a race with anyone else. They'll do it at their own leisure with minimal risk. If we can get real competition companies will be climbing over each other to offer services and not be left behind.
I'm for deregulation, to a point, but at some point you have to say enough is enough, monopolies are getting too big, and the US is suffering from it.
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Re: Ding dong the witch is dead
"Merger will be approved before new Congress sits in January."
That is an absolute falsehood. The merger will NEVER go through now. The new congress will just break up the death star. Remember, the merger doesn't DO anything for the people. The merger just allows another megacorp to get even bigger, and screw the people even more. We broke up Bell Telephone for a reason, it was too big, and ripped people off. That's because the telephone company is a natural monopoly. But just because they CAN do something, doesn't mean the dems are going to roll over and let it happen.
Wasn't it you who said "The Republicans will hold BOTH houses of congress? Why yes, I believe it was. Just goes to show how out of touch the whacko-neocons are.
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| said by karlmarx :" Wasn't it you who said "The Republicans will hold BOTH houses of congress? Why yes, I believe it was. Never said it.
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Re: I wonder...
I don't think they're bound in any way to adhere to this request. I think what Dingell's doing is making his thoughts known, so if they bring in McDowell as a tie-breaker it makes it obvious Martin is railroading it through....This assumes McDowell wants to approve the merger with no conditions though, and I'm not sure that would happen. |
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Blackened
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join:2003-09-29 | reply to mesmerMAN
Re: This is the start of a series of headaches for Big Business
It's definitely a good thing.
Now all they need to do is start instituting muni broadband nationwide and we'll truly see how competitive AT&T really is. |
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Alpine
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Re: Ding dong the witch is dead
said by karlmarx :That is an absolute falsehood. The merger will NEVER go through now. The new congress will just break up the death star. It's certainly possible that it could go through beforehand. And no, the new Congress would never break up a deal of this size. Not sure what world you're living in, but even the Democrats wouldn't break up a $100 billion deal after it's already completed. They're not THAT stupid...
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DaBavarian
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Re: This is the start of a series of headaches for Big Business
Personally, I just don't see public funded Internet access being an adequate answer or much of anything else that government provides/runs. If broadband access is considered a "right" as some communities call it then those same communities should also be willing to pay for computers for its residence to access the wifi network. |
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DaBavarian
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said by DaBavarian :Personally, I just don't see public funded Internet access being an adequate answer or much of anything else that government provides/runs. A municipal running a service is not within and of itself a bad thing. Some local governments do a good job, others a bad. Many cities and counties run their own garbage collection/recycling, electricity, water, and other services just fine. There is no reason a locally owned ISP can't do a good job. In fact, many are doing good. If the locals vote to approve having their tax money spent on a muni-ISP then they should have every right to give it a shot. If it fails then it's their own money down the drain.
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Alpine
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| Update
Dingell is backpeddling a little bit:
From Reuters:
"His spokeswoman later clarified that the lawmaker was not demanding a delay.
"He believes the FCC should take the time it needs to thoroughly examine the matter, even if it takes until next year," his spokeswoman Jodi Seth told Reuters."
So, as we've discussed, the FCC COULD pass this is they can reach a deal.
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Re: Ding dong the witch is dead
said by Alpine :said by karlmarx :That is an absolute falsehood. The merger will NEVER go through now. The new congress will just break up the death star. It's certainly possible that it could go through beforehand. And no, the new Congress would never break up a deal of this size. Not sure what world you're living in, but even the Democrats wouldn't break up a $100 billion deal after it's already completed. They're not THAT stupid... Adam Especially since a veto has no chance of being overridden. So even if Congress tried to do something about it, wouldn't be possible until Jan 2009 at the earliest.
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here | reply to Blackened
Re: This is the start of a series of headaches for Big Business
It's not competition if you can use the force of gov't and limitless cash flow to run the other guys outof town.
How about we have some gov't run stores, auto dealers, etc and see how well thatgoes over. |
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
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Re: Ding dong the witch is dead
It's funny hwo the only big conglomeration you socialists approve of is the one that can imprison you, take all your money, and kill you. |
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