danclan
join:2005-11-01
Midlothian, VA | sure it is!
.10 to the artist, .60 for the manufacturing and distro, 150$ for the executives, 500$ for the lawyers, the rest covers court costs and the .30c will cover postage. |
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
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| The funny thing is.......
....when the defendant put forth the brief questioning the amount, they cited previous case law. The RIAA merely objected with nothing to back them up. I wonder where the RIAA got their lawyers.
It all goes to the attitude they the RIAA should not be questioned no matter what it does. |
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jmycknshk
...bring your green hat
join:2004-07-02
West Chester, PA | absolutely!
K-fed worked hard on those... |
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wentlanc
You Can't Fix Dumb..
join:2003-07-30
Maineville, OH | Do the real math....
No media missing, no production costs, no distribution.... the real fine should be about.... 99 cents per song + a one-time processing fee of $9.95.
Oh, and as someone else said... $37 cents for the stamp and a free F*CK YOU!!
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ronpin
Imagine Reality
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Nirvana
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2 edits | reply to moonpuppy
Re: The funny thing is.......
...sure makes those .99 cent downloads look pretty cheap eh? We just removed an ethics-challenged Congress -- maybe it'll catch-on with the public too?
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Kearnstd
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Mullica Hill, NJ
| reply to moonpuppy
a single song is only worth 99 cents because that is the itunes value and pretty much is the defacto market standard for per track pricing and value.
the current RIAA system is like if you totaled my parked car worth 20k and i turn around and sue you for a million. its just not logical.
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BuyAclueFOOL
@comcast.net | It doesn't natter what YOU believe...
...The law allows for a $10K fine for each copy illegally transferred.
Get over it. Piracy is a crime and you will be punished.
End of story. |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
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Re: The funny thing is.......
said by ronpin  :We just removed an ethics-challenged Congress -- maybe it'll catch-on with the public too? Yea... I am sure the Democrats are gonna get right on that... piss off their largest contributors, trial lawyers, by making it hard for the **AAs to sue people.
You're deluding yourself if you seriously think the Democrats are going to pass any new laws to deal with the bona fide lawsuit abuse inflicted by the RIAA. All that has changed in regards to this issue is the names that go on the "Pay to the Order of" lines on the bribe checks. Nothing more.
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TKJunkMail
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Avalon, NJ
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Re: sure it is!
said by danclan :.10 to the artist, .60 for the manufacturing and distro, 150$ for the executives, 500$ for the lawyers, the rest covers court costs and the .30c will cover postage. The amount of loss the RIAA quotes isn't for the cost of a single DOWNLOADED song. It is for the estimated cost of that song being uploaded to thousands of other people. The RIAA for the most part has gone after those UPLOADING songs and that is what the costs are meant to reflect.
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Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
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join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ | reply to moonpuppy
Re: The funny thing is.......
i think the RIAA calls those checks "Campaign Contributions":)
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st7860
join:2004-05-13
San Francisco, CA
| reply to wentlanc
Re: Do the real math....
said by wentlanc :No media missing, no production costs, no distribution.... the real fine should be about.... 99 cents per song + a one-time processing fee of $9.95. Oh, and as someone else said... $37 cents for the stamp and a free F*CK YOU!! puritan Exactly. $750 is a joke. its not worth anywhere close to that. |
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wentlanc
You Can't Fix Dumb..
join:2003-07-30
Maineville, OH | reply to BuyAclueFOOL
Re: It doesn't natter what YOU believe...
Nice to hear from you Taylor.
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wentlanc
You Can't Fix Dumb..
join:2003-07-30
Maineville, OH
| reply to TKJunkMail
Re: sure it is!
Prove that ANYONE actually downloaded that song from the person. The person is not knowledgably uploading the song. Someone else is downloading it from them. If anything, the person who is being downloaded from is being taken advantage of.
It's a lot like leaving your car door unlocked. Does that make you a criminal?
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SSX4life
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join:2004-02-13
·RoadRunner Cable
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Re: It doesn't natter what YOU believe...
hi Taylor. You are the wind beneath my wings! ^_^ 
Clearly stated the MAXIMUM allotted fine is 10K per file..... but can you tell me who ENACTED this law or with who's support?
That's what I thought 
I know that you read this so please, have a nice day ok? Just let me know when you are done roaming myspace and listening to copyrighted music without your consent (it plays by default) or without the consent of the shareholders of that song ok?
Let me know when you are done whistling a song and end up getting sued for parody or "infringement" because you were reproducing a copyrighted work and the author and creator was not being financially compensated.
And have a nice day ok? I acutally enjoy your comments because you are on the complete other side of the spectrum. It's actually nice to debate with someone! Now please... just be intelligent about your arguments and have some sort of validity and backing ok? The whole "they deserve death" argument ain't working ok?
Oh and have a nice day! ^_^
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RayW
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join:2001-09-01
Layton, UT
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Re: The funny thing is.......
Ummm... "How Do You Define Ethics?" If you think the Dems are any better than the Reps, then you must be about 8-10 years old and have only seen anti-Bush rhetoric.
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Sammer
join:2005-12-22
Canonsburg, PA | reply to wentlanc
Re: It doesn't natter what YOU believe...
It good to hear that at least one judge cares about the Constitution. Now if only the rest them did the barely legal AA's would be facing RICO charges. |
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sjr
join:2006-08-27
Osseo, MN
|  reply to BuyAclueFOOL
Sounds like someone could be out of a job of making wild rants on forums if the RIAA gets an amount precedent set at much lower then they try to extort people for.
I realize you wont reply as I have never seen a reply other than the first one and never any reasoning behind your spoon fed lines. But what is the purpose to making your posts? The rhetoric you say every time makes anything said irrelevant and frankly hurts your side more than anything. It makes it really hard for anyone that even somewhat sides with you able to agree with you as your babble is so far out there that anyone else looks bad siding anywhere near you.
So keep up the good work until you are fired as the RIAA will have to come up with a new extortion model that your babble doesn't fit with.
Which I am sure they will come up with a new extortion model, it is really all they seem to be good at. Just think how much money they could make if they put all this time, effort, and legal money into making a working business model instead of shooting first and never asking questions later. |
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Omega
Displaced Ohioan
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join:2002-07-30
Cheyenne, WY
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Re: sure it is!
said by TKJunkMail :said by danclan :.10 to the artist, .60 for the manufacturing and distro, 150$ for the executives, 500$ for the lawyers, the rest covers court costs and the .30c will cover postage. The amount of loss the RIAA quotes isn't for the cost of a single DOWNLOADED song. It is for the estimated cost of that song being uploaded to thousands of other people. The RIAA for the most part has gone after those UPLOADING songs and that is what the costs are meant to reflect. Then the RIAA needs to prove that user uploaded the song to thousands of people.
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alsglhe
@optonline.net
| future theft
Computer files will always be stolen, and it might even be more widespread when Windows Vista and IPv6 is deployed to give everyone their own domain. The RIAA or any other force on this planet doesn't have the man power to stop it because people will always find ways around road blocks that institutions have setup.
On another note, I'm suprised that YouTube has lasted this long generating revunue from the MPAA and other organization's copyrighted material. Do you think a website would have flourished as greatly or even lasted a day if instead of videos you upload songs to share on a website? The RIAA should go the same route as the MPAA and embrace piracy as a means to getting their content more widespread into the world. Look at it this way, they are fighting a loosing battle against piracy but the RIAA or the musicians don't seem to be starving, so they really have nothing to lose at this point. |
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sporkme
drop the crantini and move it, sister
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join:2000-07-01
Morristown, NJ
·Optimum Online
| reply to pnh102
Re: The funny thing is.......
said by pnh102 :[Yea... I am sure the Democrats are gonna get right on that... piss off their largest contributors, trial lawyers Got a source to back that "largest contributors" claim up?
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