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Smyrna, DE | What about the others
So what about the other people that dont use the parental lockdown? |
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amungus
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join:2004-11-26
America
clubs:
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Well, now we wait and see how long it takes some enterprising hacker(s) to make something silly happen with Vista...
So far, Vista's selling points will be "trusted" hogwash, and shiny new game support with dx10..
I don't care either way, I'm going to wait awhile before jumping over to it... and by then, heck, I might just buy a Mac. |
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buyacluefool
@comcast.net | This should make everyone sleep better at night...
What idiots the folks at MICROSUCKS are! |
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Anonymous
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join:2004-06-01
IA
1 edit | "Windows Chief Says Vista Won't Need Antivirus"
This is going to come back and haunt him big time.
What a f***ing idiot!
BTW does that mean they will discontinue One Care?
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BuriedCaesar
It's Not Polite To Stare.
join:2004-03-27
Richardson, TX | Anyone remember a little boat...
called "Titanic"? Their makers made a boast along these lines almost 100 years ago. |
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herbkk
@pacbell.net
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Re: "Windows Chief Says Vista Won't Need Antivirus"
Ya, wait until that son hits pre teen, downloads the latest linux or whatever iso to crack the admin accounts, and downloads tons of porn along with a bunch of sh1tware and who knows what else.
This is just a lame soundbyte to sell Vista to the clueless parents out there. |
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b10010011
Whats a Posting tag?
join:2004-09-07
Bellingham, WA
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3 edits | meanwhile linux has been this secure for years
I have no problem letting my 13 year old surf the net using Xubuntu linux.
Also Xubuntu runs fine on an old Thinkpad 433Mhz Celeron with 128MB RAM that I got for free on Craig's List.
Lets see Vista do that! 
»www.xubuntu.org/ |
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notatroll
@verizon.net | although technically feasible (as is the case with winxp) Microsoft wont allow it because its against their licensing. |
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Alpine
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join:2000-01-11
Atlanta, GA | reply to Anonymous
Re: "Windows Chief Says Vista Won't Need Antivirus"
As an aside, he never said that. That's purely media spin twisting his statement that he felt alright letting his son use a locked-down version of Vista w/o a virus scanner.
Adam |
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
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Re: meanwhile linux has been this secure for years
said by b10010011  :I have no problem letting my 13 year old surf the net using Xubuntu linux. Also Xubuntu runs fine on an old Thinkpad 433Mhz Celeron with 128MB RAM that I got for free on Craig's List. Lets see Vista do that! » www.xubuntu.org/ Games.
Connect to my MS Exchange server.
Let's see xubuntu do that! |
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raye
Premium
join:2000-08-14
Orange, CA | reply to Anonymous
Re: "Windows Chief Says Vista Won't Need Antivirus"
Jim Allchin is leaving in January, so it will bite M$ in the ass |
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raye
Premium
join:2000-08-14
Orange, CA
| reply to Matt
Re: meanwhile linux has been this secure for years
Connect to my MS Exchange server.
Let's see xubuntu do that!
No problem. Have you heard of Outlook Web Access?
Works fine for my Linux an dMac clients who need access to e-mail on Exchange Server.
Think before youy speak |
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Nightfall
My Goal Is To Deny Yours
Premium,MVM
join:2001-08-03
Grand Rapids, MI
 ·Site5.com
·AT&T Midwest
·Comcast
| said by raye : Connect to my MS Exchange server. Let's see xubuntu do that! No problem. Have you heard of Outlook Web Access? Works fine for my Linux an dMac clients who need access to e-mail on Exchange Server. Think before youy speak I think it is safe to say that there are pluses and minuses for every OS out there. I use Ubuntu as well as Windows and there are things that each one was suited for. There is no way I would run Games on a Ubuntu platform. When looking at the most secure OS, I wouldn't consider Windows to be that. Open source is a very strong selling point of Ubuntu and other Linux derivatives, but their support options suck total ass. At least I can get help in the Windows world easy enough in a lot of forums without being treated like someone who should find the problems himself in some Ubuntu forums. Course, Windows has sucked in the past when it comes to beta testing software, but that is something that Microsoft has changed with their very successful open beta tests with Office and IE7.
The point is that being a master of one isn't enough anymore. In order to be someone who truely knows what product is best for what task, you have to know both. You have to know what is out there and how to implement it.
The one thing I can't stand personally are Windows or Linux fanboys.
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Nightfall
My Goal Is To Deny Yours
Premium,MVM
join:2001-08-03
Grand Rapids, MI
·Site5.com
·AT&T Midwest
·Comcast
| reply to amungus
Re: ok
said by amungus :Well, now we wait and see how long it takes some enterprising hacker(s) to make something silly happen with Vista... So far, Vista's selling points will be "trusted" hogwash, and shiny new game support with dx10.. I don't care either way, I'm going to wait awhile before jumping over to it... and by then, heck, I might just buy a Mac. Microsoft controls a vast majority of the PCs today which can make for a support nightmare. Especially when the hacker community as a whole starts going through the millions of lines of code looking for exploits. If we all just moved to Macs or Linux, does anyone think that they would solve the problem? Would open source patches and updates be better than what we have now? What about the idiots who don't update their software, how would open source software deal with people like that? Seems that even Microsoft has to have answers for those people who are in the same boat who don't update, but who have been exploited. Why should we hold open source software to a different level?
If the software is coded by humans, there will always be exploits, holes, and backdoors to secure. Doesn't matter what OS you use.
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Michieru2
zzz zzz zzz
Premium
join:2005-01-28
Miami, FL | reply to BuriedCaesar
Re: Anyone remember a little boat...
That's actually a scary and messed up thought, but I like it. |
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captokita
Premium
join:2005-02-22
Calabash, NC
| So?
I can do that now with my XP SP2 computer....
Let's see, I don't go to pron sites, I don't open emails with funky attachments, I don't go to warez/crapware download sites.......
I don't see the point, let his kid loose with a wide open Vista machine, and see what happens. This guy is stating that in a CONTROLLED environment, he doesn't have to worry so much about viruses...... duh! |
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cableties
Premium
join:2005-01-27
 ·Verizon FIOS
| Exactly. Nothing like giving yourself praise and Kudos:
I did a great Job. Yessiree! I am so great! I am so modest! And look, I even insulted the majority of you by comparing you to my seven year old. And I got in the press, as Microsoft Exec should.
in the words of a TV commercial, Dew mass! |
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pumpkinhead7
join:2002-06-14
Fairmont, WV | reply to raye
Re: meanwhile linux has been this secure for years
Think before YOU speak, the outlook web client is in no way as feature rich or as fast as a true blue Outlook Client. |
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RayW
Premium
join:2001-09-01
Layton, UT
clubs:
·XMission
| reply to Alpine
Re: "Windows Chief Says Vista Won't Need Antivirus"
said by Alpine :As an aside, he never said that. That's purely media spin twisting his statement that he felt alright letting his son use a locked-down version of Vista w/o a virus scanner. Adam In a purely semantic sense you are correct. In real world advertising, he said Vista is so secure with its features that it does not need a virus scanner to keep his computer safe.
Do not forget, most if not almost all people do not take the time (if they can even do it) to analyze a statement, they take it at face value. Hence, Vista is so secure that when it is locked down you will not need a virus scanner, even for a kid.
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Joe12345678
join:2003-07-22
Des Plaines, IL | reply to herbkk
just wait until his son wants to play games that need a admin account / popup UAP dialogs all the time. |
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