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Comments on news posted 2006-11-13 12:04:28: A user in our Optimum On-line forum is participating in a trial of Cablevision's symmetrical 50Mbps service and offers his impressions for your perusing pleasure. Optimum On-line "Ultra" tier was in limited deployment last spring in Oyster Bay. ..

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ztmike
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join:2001-08-02
Michigan City, IN
·Comcast

ok..

How long till the people on 50/50 get CAPPED? you hear about it all the time from OOL because you know, the only thing people will do that tier is run servers, you cant download at that speed so ya..

PENDING on the price that is..your average joe or someones mommy is not going to be able to pay 100+ just for the interweb

My 0.2
JohnA
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join:2003-09-16
Pittsburgh, PA


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Where's the Surprise????


How can anyone be surprised? This is FTTP, straight fiber through the homeowners wall to the modem. It never gets on the coax. Makes me wonder what they need Narad for. The Narad solution was supposed to be able to traverse the existing plant.

My error. It's coax from the pole to the modem, but new coax, not part of or tied to the existing plant.
sunny8294
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join:2001-03-15
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Re: Where's the Surprise????

said by JohnA See Profile :

How can anyone be surprised? This is FTTP, straight fiber through the homeowners wall to the modem. It never gets on the coax. Makes me wonder what they need Narad for. The Narad solution was supposed to be able to traverse the existing plant.

My error. It's coax from the pole to the modem, but new coax, not part of or tied to the existing plant.
Why bringing in new Coax and why not just brining in Fiber to the home?
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Rob A
Same Old Jets
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join:2005-01-17
Pompton Plains, NJ

Yeah sure...

I'll believe it when I see it.
Light Guy

join:2006-05-12
Somerville, NJ

50/50 or more like 37/11

According to the test subject he is getting 37/11 from speakeasy. See »[OOL] Optimum Online Ultra - Installed

He claims these results are highly inaccurate, yet we have seen FIOS test out at 50/10
tmc8080

join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY

Re: 50/50 or more like 37/11

Speakeasy is as bloated as CheezyPoofs, try this one:
»www.ispnetinc.net/speedtest/

or this one:
»speed.col.wideopenwest.com/
Fishie

join:2003-01-14
Riverside, CA

What to do with the Speed?

Ok, so people have 5/1, 10/1, 16/1, 50/50. This is what I would like to know: what do people do with all of that speed? If someone has 50mbps/50mbps, I doubt they will find a lot of servers to download from at that speed. I am sure it wold be low latency so it would be good for games. However, low latency *can* be achieved with slower speeds. Also, companies like to cap. I'm sure that people who use Bit Torrent will like the speed, but companies are sending people letters to stop using BT if they "see" the customer using it. Running any type of server on a residential line is usually, if not always, against the TOS.

So in the end, why have such a large pipe if companies are just going to cap/restrict the use of it? This is not a troll post. I really would like to know.

Rick
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join:2001-02-06
Waterbury, CT
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Re: What to do with the Speed?

If you look at the history of technology, whether it be computer or hsi related, it seems that no matter what has been built, people and companies have always managed to find a use for it and to even quickly make it even basically obsolete.

Honestly, even after the pentium 3, 800mhz series line, I wondered what in the world anyone would ever really need more speed than that for. It was fast....super fast. And even by todays standards could do very well what a lot of people use computers for.

But, along came the gaming industry and just continually pushed the boundaries of what computers needed to do.
As well as in business, the research and scientific industries who always feel the need for more speed.

The same seems to be true now for HSI. What once was awesome having a 1500k cable connection now seems very modest by todays standards.
And again, it's driven primarily by the video industry where large pipes are a necessity.

Personally, I see the future of all of this winding up that everything will come to us via the internet.
I think that if we want to watch the CBS evening news..we'll go to CBS's website..and click a link.
And the same will hold true for basically everything we want to watch, whether it's TV shows or movies.

Think about it this way. Why do THEY need cable co's for anything other than having a hsi pipe to the home?
They don't..if they can deliver their products DIRECT to us, the consumers.

Cable co's today are essentially just middlemen in the content game, and middlemen often times wind up getting cut out of the process in the search for cost savings and efficiency.

And so, what will these huge pipes be needed for?
Well, if you're a family of 6 and everyone wants a different HDTV show..and it's ALL coming over the net..

and everyone also wants to surf while watching TV...

There goes ALL That bandwidth..and then some.

This really is needed for the future. Because that future is right around the corner I think.
Fishie

join:2003-01-14
Riverside, CA

Re: What to do with the Speed?

I do agree with what you said, however, in my post I talk about companies restricting a 50/50 connection with caps. That was my true question. If companies are restricting our use to a small amount of GB/month, then I think a large pipe is pretty useless. I will *want* or "need" a 50mbps/50mbps connection, when companies start fulfilling their promises of HDTV (not over compressed junk), no caps are involved, and servers on the internet can continuously push that much to me. In the future, I can see better compression algorithms and more efficient networks that could do a lot more with a 1500kbps connection.

I understand your comment about the 800MHz computer. I know people that use their computers for email, internet, and word processing. A 1GHz computer is more than what they truly need. I also think that companies create an artificial need by limiting updates to previous versions or creating bloated software.

xyar
Premium
join:2001-06-21
Portland, OR

WOW

Time is money with me, and though my HOA forces us to pay $30/month for pre-wired Ethernet broadbant Internet (which tops out at 8 mpbs/8 mpbs) I would pay much more for 50 mbps up/down if it was consistent. The size files I upload on a regular basis (legit uploads, BTW) the time saved would be worth it!!! Though I am still looking forward to FIOS when I move! (Can't see the point in switching when I'm forced to pay the HOA for Internet anyway...)
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Digital_Boy

@sbc.com

If only TWC in San Diego would adopt this...

Le sigh. I'd be tempted to get a triple play package from them and dump ATT altogether, and I *work* for ATT.

robertfl
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join:2005-10-10
Mary Esther, FL
·Cox VOIP

DAMN..

If they did offer that for $200 dollars ID TAKE IT. I would like to see other cable companies do this, also. (like cox and road runner) We now have 12 megs down 1 meg up and our bill went up $2.00.

-Rob
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StealtheR

join:2003-02-07
Phoenixville, PA

Re: DAMN..

Verizon FIOS simply rules!

unlimited usenets usage with their fast servers

I've downloaded somewhere between 300-500GB/month and never got a complained from them. Extremely friendly customer service 24/7 on demmand. My FIOS was never down the whole time...I'll never go back to Cable again!!!
short09

join:2006-07-21

only if verizon would buy qwest

thats the only way we would get fios in arizona
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