firewire9999
join:2004-07-11
Livonia, MI | 5...4...3...2...1
Ok let USA and/or Bush bashing start.................. |
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| Come on people......
With so many places that don't have basic food or clean water, how can some countries even be concerned with broadband? 
Sounds like more idealistic talk with a UN that, more and more, becomes further disconnected from its intended mission. |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
Premium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
 ·Comcast
| UN is Worthless
This is an agency that can't feed the hungry, can't enrich the poor, can't disarm terrorist groups, rapes the vulnerable, takes bribes from dictators in trouble and puts oppressive states in charge of human rights.
Aside from lacking the legal authority to make such a proclamation, what moral authority does it have to make such a statement?
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD | you don't think broadband is important?
or you don't want third world countries clogging up our tubes? |
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Slidetbone
Mazin Go
Premium
join:2002-11-10
Land O Lakes, FL
| Say what?
Can we live without electricity in our society?
Not well at all.
Can we live without running water in our society?
Not well at all.
Can we live without trash/waste disposal?
Not well at all.
Can we live without broadband?
We can. We just have to rely on services like FED EX, USPS, UPS, dial-up, courier service, FAX, telephone etc, etc etc.
Broadband is a convenience. It makes things easier, attainment of data easier and just saves time.
Let the bashing begin! |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
Premium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast
| reply to nasadude
Re: UN is Worthless
said by nasadude  :you don't think broadband is important? No. And broadband is certainly not as important as feeding the hungry, helping the poor to not be poor, disarming terrorist groups, not raping the vulnerable, steering clear of bribes from corrupt governments, and protecting human rights. All of these things are what the UN is supposed to be doing.
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captokita
Premium
join:2005-02-22
Calabash, NC | And we care WHY?????
Who cares what the UN thinks?
We've had this argument/discussion on these forums several times. Will broadband eventually become a utility? Probably. Should it be considered one now. No.
My .02. |
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Maxo
Your tax dollars at work.
Premium,VIP
join:2002-11-04
Tallahassee, FL
clubs:
| reply to firewire9999
Re: 5...4...3...2...1
"Death to America"
»www.youtube.com/watch?v=T89y01dZc1c |
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
·Comcast
| reply to pnh102
Re: UN is Worthless
you a luddite or somthin'?
I agree the UN can and should be doing all those things you mention, but I hate to tell ya, broadband is the future whether you believe it or not.
that's why I think the U.S. will eventually suffer in the world community if we don't get our sheeit together about making real broadband available thruout the country. |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
Premium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast
| said by nasadude :you a luddite or somthin'? What's more important? Paying for broadband or making a mortgage payment? If I had to choose between the two, I will guarantee that keeping a roof over my head is a wee bit more important than broadband.
said by nasadude :that's why I think the U.S. will eventually suffer in the world community if we don't get our sheeit together about making real broadband available thruout the country. And in the meantime, anyone who wants broadband in the USA is free to do what I did and move to where the broadband is. People who willingly choose to move to an unserved area have no one to blame but themselves for their predicaments.
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richardpor
Fur it up
join:2003-04-19
Portland, OR | Letd Get it Right
Broadband != Rights. |
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wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY
 ·Verizon FIOS
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·RoadRunner Cable
 ·BroadVoice
| reply to pnh102
Re: UN is Worthless
said by pnh102 :This is an agency that can't feed the hungry, can't enrich the poor, can't disarm terrorist groups, rapes the vulnerable, takes bribes from dictators in trouble and puts oppressive states in charge of human rights. Aside from lacking the legal authority to make such a proclamation, what moral authority does it have to make such a statement? I was about to make a similar post until I saw yours. I cant agree more, the UN is like the ACLU of the international world. All either of them do is go around stirring up trouble, yet (THANKFULLY) neither of them has the far reaching powers they seek. The UN should be disbanded immediately. They are honestly a worthless bunch of idiots that cant get anything done. They send "peace keeping" soldiers into the most dangerous areas of the world and then prohibit them from engaging rapists, murderers, and terrorists who commit crimes right in front of them. If the UN decides to step up to the plate and actually create a military deterrence and do something for once, then I might consider revising my statement. Lets not forget the billions of dollars they waste "talking" about world issues and then doing nothing about them.
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celeritypc
For Lucky Best Wash, Use Mr. Sparkle
Premium
join:2004-05-15
Caldwell, NJ
| Did I miss somthing?
From what I read it said the broadband has become vital for business. Nowhere did I see it was a necessity for the average person (or average poor person as the case may be.)
Look at it from this perspective: If developing countries can't provide the necessary tools for businesses to survive (home-grown or foreign) how will these countries attract the kind of investment that helps to build the infrastructure to allow people to prosper and make poor people considerably less poor. Yes, I understand that without potable water or stable electricity, business cannot thrive and no one will invest. My point is that broadband is almost on par with those services to help build an economy. Broadband (if used properly) can also help expand educational options at a lower cost. Without such educational opportunities, no place can prosper. |
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wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY | reply to Maxo
Re: 5...4...3...2...1
Now THATS funny! |
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ftthz
If love can kill hate can also save
join:2005-10-17 | hrmm... guess that means rural america
will get broadband ... like phone service if its a utility they have to serve everyone no more cherry picking |
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Midak
Doctors suck
Premium
join:2002-02-26
Yonkers, NY
| reply to nasadude
Re: UN is Worthless
said by nasadude :you a luddite or somthin'? I agree the UN can and should be doing all those things you mention, but I hate to tell ya, broadband is the future whether you believe it or not. Sorry but without all those other things, those people have no future that broadband could create. Also, you would be hard pressed to find a luddite on this site. |
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bamabrad
join:2006-01-27
Port Orange, FL
| Depends on where you are standing--
If you are standing in Ethiopia-FOOD would probably the most important thing to desire- If you are in Somalia-Some sort of security--Here in the USA BB COULD be thought of as something necessary to encourage growth of business and commerce-It's all relative. |
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asdfdfdf
@Level3.net
thumbs down from:
Midak
| reply to pnh102
Re: UN is Worthless
Their argument would be that the two are related. In order to be able to feed themselves and keep a roof over their heads people need to participate fully in the economy. The concern is not just with providing charity to feed and house people, but with creating the conditions that allow them to become self-sufficient. If you want people to be able to become self sufficient they have to have access to the tools of the modern economy and an increasingly important tool is communications access. Societies without the proper communications and transportation infrastructure generally remain societies that are perpetually economically backward and isolated.
Obviously this is complicated by the many other reasons that people may be economically isolated, including things like wars, perverse and corrupt governments etc., but I don't think the failure of the UN to solve global poverty and war necessarily renders their argument illegitimate. |
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J
California Dreamin'
join:2002-02-08
California
| reply to ftthz
Re: hrmm... guess that means rural america
said by ftthz :will get broadband ... like phone service if its a utility they have to serve everyone no more cherry picking Exactly!!!! 
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bmn
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Premium,ExMod 2003-06
join:2001-03-15
hiatus | reply to richardpor
Re: Letd Get it Right
Do you ever make a coherent post ?
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Prove it... |
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