chd176
join:2003-01-10
Winfield, AL
 ·CenturyLink
| Out longer...
obviously EVDO is ahead it's been out much long than WCDMA. Most of the GSM providers are just now rolling out their flavors of 3G I know Cingular is starting to deploy UTMS and HSPDA in several areas. I purchased the new Samsung A707 (SYNC) and my speeds when connecting to my laptop have greatly increased. I normally get 1.0/330 for speeds and the ping times are in the 200ms range. I can't really compare it to EVDO because neither Sprint or Verizon offer wireless service in my area.
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1.5/256 CenturyTel PPPoE DSL line |
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
 ·T-Mobile US
| Exactly. And let's not forget to mention that Cingular's equipment is already capable to 3.6MB/s (Class 6 HSDPA) while EVDO is just upgrading their network to match Cingular's stuff: higher uplink bandwidth though now it seems EV-DO Rev A will have lower latency than Cingular's HSDPA. As soon as Cingular will be able to make sure your packets hit the internet right after your tower latency will be in reasonable level.
My latency is pretty high here in NYC, 4-500ms but I see great downspeed wherever I can get UMTS signal. |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
 ·RoadRunner Cable
·DSL EXTREME
| The issue that keeps me away is the strict TOS and price. Price is high enough to keep many away, but add in the TOS, and I won't touch that for my business (VPN/SSH/X-11/Rdesktop). I'd be kicked off in the 1st week. Transferred 4GB in one afternoon last week alone.
Personally, I'd take UMTS for its GSM abilities (seemless roaming, SIM's, etc), however, Cingular does not offer UMTS in Los Angeles, and doesn't plan to until ~ July 2007. |
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Nuts
join:2006-04-27
Forest, OH
| EVDO Activated Today
Verizon activated EVDO today in Findlay, OH. Doesn't look like it reaches to the southern area of the county though.
Talked to a Sprint dealer last week, and they are working on putting towers up in the area for service. Not sure when it will be available though. |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Only _real_ problem I have with Sprint is the lack of Sprint coverage... they appear to have decent city coverage, but lots of roaming outside the city. |
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dmeyer
join:2002-08-14
Austin, TX
| Can't we all just get along
The market would be so much more competitive if Sprint and Verizon went UMTS/WCDMA instead of investing in EVDO. The future clearly lies in 3GSM-UMTS-WCDMA for the global wireless standard. If Cingular subs had the ability to swap out their SIM cards for a Verizon/Sprint SIM and vice versa, imagine the possibilities. |
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verolom
join:2002-03-23
Eagleville, PA
·Comcast
| Here is my outlook on wireless, no matter who provides it, it is crap. Here is another, Verizon and Sprint, though more successful by early deployment do not cut it for me. Worldwide standards, though more acceptable are still too restrictive, slow and expensive. Neither does Clearwire's WiMax. 802.11ABG APs are still the best option for most of us, mortal and poor souls. |
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
·T-Mobile US
| reply to en102
Re: Out longer...
said by en102  :The issue that keeps me away is the strict TOS and price. Price is high enough to keep many away, but add in the TOS, and I won't touch that for my business (VPN/SSH/X-11/Rdesktop). I'd be kicked off in the 1st week. Transferred 4GB in one afternoon last week alone.
I'm not aware of anything like that at Cingular. I use RDP and SSH, SkypeOut all the time and never had any problem. Price is very reasonable, I think, unlimited for $20/month. quote:
Personally, I'd take UMTS for its GSM abilities (seemless roaming, SIM's, etc), however, Cingular does not offer UMTS in Los Angeles, and doesn't plan to until ~ July 2007.
Where did you hear that? AFAIK they will have most of the US cities covered by next Summer. |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Local Cingular corporate store. |
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tc1uscg
join:2005-03-09
Saint Clair Shores, MI
1 edit | reply to kamm
said by kamm :Exactly. And let's not forget to mention that Cingular's equipment is already capable to 3.6MB/s ... Capability vs Availability are 2 VERY BIG different things. My Ethernet card in my pc has the ability of 100mbps but that doesn't do me much good if my cable company only offers 6. This 3.6 stuff is fine for the lab but in the real world, the numbers by Sprint and others don't always match whats really going on. Think we call that marketing? As experience shows it's ugly head, each tower has a different throughput. I've seen stats from Sprint and Verizon. I doubt Cingular and/or anyone else is consistent in this area. |
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tc1uscg
join:2005-03-09
Saint Clair Shores, MI
| reply to dmeyer
Re: Can't we all just get along
said by dmeyer :The market would be so much more competitive if Sprint and Verizon went UMTS/WCDMA instead of investing in EVDO. The future clearly lies in 3GSM-UMTS-WCDMA for the global wireless standard. Why would VZ, Sprint or anyone else spend billions to gut and rebuild everything just so a small portion (I really would like to see some numbers) of phone users need to phone home while in some overseas country? |
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