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Comments on news posted 2006-11-27 19:12:40: PBS checks in on a $63 million "school of the future" that has been constructed in one of Philadelphia's higher crime rate neighborhoods. Notebooks and textbooks are replaced by laptops and broadband (technical specifics are painfully sparse). ..

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Littlefalls

join:2004-11-16
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uhh...

Wouldn't People Lose them...?? And I really wouldn't want the school to keep track on everything I do... who knows maybe there's also a built in microphone in it :-X


ninjatutle
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Oh noes, these books are too heavy

Kids are already crying about books being too heavy. What are they going to say about laptops and the power bricks.


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said by ninjatutle See Profile :

Oh noes, these books are too heavy

Kids are already crying about books being too heavy. What are they going to say about laptops and the power bricks.
They complain with good reason. For small children, 20 pounds of books is just too much. To me, a Laptop and A/C adapter is a lot lighter.


brandon
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"PBS checks in on a $63 "school of the future"..."

Only $63? Not bad. I'd let that come out of my taxpayer budget!


ss4vegito7

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I love technology

i love computers a gadgets but this doesn't seem like it creates a very good learning environment. I'm currently in high school and I think that they are trying to make something like this work but it will probably distract most of the students.
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karlmarx

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I have to disagree

They are raising a generation of children who don't know the meaning of 'privacy'. Privacy is a very important concept for a child to understand. If they are raised in an environment where everything they do is monitored, we will have a generation of 'generic indian (from india) kids'. We won't have kids who think outside the box, because they will be repressed. We won't have creative, intuitive, and yes, bad kids, because they will all be monitored, all the time. We won't have kids who question the government, because they will be conditioned to accept what is given to them. We will have a generation of mindless drones, and that will be a disaster to society. Being a kid means breaking the rules. Being a kid means you don't always do what your parents/authority tells you to do. Being a kid means you SHOULD be a rebel. Never trust anyone over 30! And I'm over 30!
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Jodokast96
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Re: Cry babies

Yeah, just what I'd want my kid carrying in a high crime neighborhood. Something the local crackheads could get more than just their next few hits from stealing from them. Why not just paint big targets on their backs.

jervin123

join:2005-04-14
Philadelphia, PA
Now theres a budget gap

Now there complaining of a budget gap about the size of the school. Take a gander here »www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news···6790.htm


TScheisskopf
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Fot those who object:

Now, I know a lot of those who object to this are of a certain socio-political idealogy that finds large tax bills distasteful. And who doesn't. So, let's kindasorta run the numbers and consider what this *could* mean in relationship to this tax bill:

Consider the yearly cost of books.

"For FY 2006, the District will invest $18.5 million on rolling out core curriculum materials and textbooks, that is in addition to the over $53 million all ready invested in fiscal years 2004 and 2005."

»www.phila.k12.pa.us/offices/comm···get.html

Now, it seems to me that in a reasonably decent amount of time, they are going to be able to amortize this initial expense of $63million. Every time there is a change in the course data, every time there are advances in information, teaching, concepts, you name it...They only have to update this stuff one time. Less raw materials are consumed in the production and dissemination of this information. Kids are exposed to high-tech tools and concepts that they might never have seen, to this point. They stop being taught things from out-of-date course materials.

It has the potential to spend less of your tax dollars.

This really does have these potentials, and more I cannot think of at this time. If you can still complain about this, I look forward to your reasoning.

Oh, here's more:

»www.bdcnetwork.com/article/CA6342191.html


Jodokast96
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That sounds good initially, but who pays for the upkeep of the laptops? Where you save on books, you now spend on IT. Plus the cost of replacing a laptop is far more than replacing a book. And just how long do you expect the laptops to last? 3 years would be very optimistic IMO. While textbooks are often updated, there aren't always that many changes to them that make them outdated enough that they couldn't be used beyond 3 years.

rob2006

join:2006-11-07
Austell, GA
reply to TScheisskopf
they should use that money for needfull things such as higher security, better lockers, and a 3 Gbit Backbone to the internet.


TScheisskopf
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reply to Jodokast96
How much less is the cost of one year's textbooks per student?

Upkeep of the laptops and infrastructure? How much you wanna bet that M$ and Linux cert prep courses are already in the planning stages?

Something tells me they already know how these numbers break out.


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Re: I have to disagree

said by karlmarx See Profile :

They are raising a generation of children who don't know the meaning of 'privacy'. Privacy is a very important concept for a child to understand. If they are raised in an environment where everything they do is monitored, we will have a generation of 'generic indian (from india) kids'. We won't have kids who think outside the box, because they will be repressed. We won't have creative, intuitive, and yes, bad kids, because they will all be monitored, all the time. We won't have kids who question the government, because they will be conditioned to accept what is given to them. We will have a generation of mindless drones, and that will be a disaster to society. Being a kid means breaking the rules. Being a kid means you don't always do what your parents/authority tells you to do. Being a kid means you SHOULD be a rebel. Never trust anyone over 30! And I'm over 30!
Where have you been. Schools/society/government have been training children to be good, little -above all- conformist, rapacious consumers for the past twenty years. Laptops in school does not change that fact.
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tim_k
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Just cut my wrists why don't ya?

Just another one of the ideas in this state that continue to drive my school taxes through the roof. They really don't care about the taxpayer here.

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reply to Jodokast96
Re: Fot those who object:

said by Jodokast96 See Profile :

That sounds good initially, but who pays for the upkeep of the laptops? Where you save on books, you now spend on IT. Plus the cost of replacing a laptop is far more than replacing a book. And just how long do you expect the laptops to last? 3 years would be very optimistic IMO. While textbooks are often updated, there aren't always that many changes to them that make them outdated enough that they couldn't be used beyond 3 years.
DING DING DING!!!!!!!! WE HAVE A WINNER!!!!!!!!!!!!

I want to see the lawsuits role in when some parents complain about their kids not getting laptops.


Geist89

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Just another tax hike for something that's way ahead of its time.


Jodokast96
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Re: Fot those who object:

For a school system that is in such bad shape, a nice start would be to try the textbooks on CD/DVD as a start, and not as an outright replacement since not everybody could make use of them.


GoodGODbuyAclue

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If you ever doubted that the world is on crack...

...this should alleviate all doubt.

Jack and Jill can't read, write or do math but they can game. And to think this shit is approved by "educators" who are suppose to be paid professionals. Yeah, right.

Is it any surprise that crime continues to rise when our education system fails not only the students but society? Time for somebody in the U.S. educational system to wake up and BUY A CLUE. This ranks only a step above trying to approve Ubonics as an acceptable U.S. language in the L.A. school district.


Jodokast96
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Yeah, education is in a bad place right now. My oldest is in second grade, and I'm still waiting for her to be taught something that she didn't already know.

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Re: I have to disagree

said by karlmarx See Profile :

They are raising a generation of children who don't know the meaning of 'privacy'. Privacy is a very important concept for a child to understand. If they are raised in an environment where everything they do is monitored, we will have a generation of 'generic indian (from india) kids'. We won't have kids who think outside the box, because they will be repressed. We won't have creative, intuitive, and yes, bad kids, because they will all be monitored, all the time. We won't have kids who question the government, because they will be conditioned to accept what is given to them. We will have a generation of mindless drones, and that will be a disaster to society. Being a kid means breaking the rules. Being a kid means you don't always do what your parents/authority tells you to do. Being a kid means you SHOULD be a rebel. Never trust anyone over 30! And I'm over 30!
Apon reflection, I decided not to post.
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